Comments Thread For: Mayweather on PED Testing, Says Pacquiao Finally Learned

[Reloaded]

Nope. Floyd asked Marquez to come up to a CW that was 2 fights from being 3 divisions higher than Marquez's 130 days. Then Floyd actually came in 2lbs higher.

So what would it prove if Ward got Floyd to go up to 164 then Ward would change his mind and come in at 166lbs on fight night and beat Floyd to a pulp.

Is that best of era material?

What are you answering here you lost me with your first response, I feel who asked for the weight is not in question , champs fight at the division limit , thats the how its always been , who asks for a CW is irrelevant to the its influence on the result , Floyd fought JMM weighing lighter that what Manny did , so I dont see your point , JMM worked his way up to that weight with good KO wins over bigger guys and had been coming into the ring since his 135 days around the same weight 143-146 so its not the big deal you think its , Floyd comes from the same place as did all the LWs that move to WW .

All they doing is not drying out and they are training through camp at a higher weight , its easier for them because they dont have to stay on edge to make their lightest weight , you kids make laugh how you hang onto numbers but you dont understand what the mechanics of the numbers are , you got to understand the weigh-in weight and fight night weight , and how can be manipulated and how it can help you or ruin you , its not just numbers .

4 pd at weigh-in to a SMW is like 8 pd to a WW , Ward with a 164 CW against such a smaller fighter and being as elite as he is it would add up to much For Floyd with Ward being 175-185 on the night , there would be near a 30 lb on the night difference .

Now change it a little its a 158 CW and Ward weighed 160 , Ward would come in around 165-170 , because his to make 160 body does not have the mass to get the water back into , go look that HW that went down to 175 , forget his name , look at Oscar another case , weight in boxing has laws that control it , the numbers must be clearly defined for sound reasons other wise your fighter is gunna get belted just like Oscar did , going up in weight will never hurt you , even Roach didnt understand that when he said JMM will be slower and forced to slug , kinda back fired on Freddie there , he out smarted himself and should have learnt after Bradley , coming up dont weaken them .

[chump123]

Tennis players dont do that do they, nor do athletes. Jesus christ!

but their location and schedule is known due to competition. Floyd is on a holiday and his location and schedule can change day to day.

Also tennis players and other athletes have a testing angency testing multiple athletes at a time at particular sporting events. Do you really think a testing angency employee is going to follow floyd around the country/world to test him?

[Reloaded]

What are you going on about? This is just so ****ed up it, there really is no point. Have I spent time in gyms or around fighters at title level? Have you?? You seem to have so little knowledge about not only boxing but the whole principle and concept of doping that I think its obvious that you havent set foot in live fight venue, let alone a gym.

It really doesnt matter what I say, you are beyond help. Just carry on living your little girls flojob fantasy and believing that floyds testing regimen is in some way adequate and that it allows no opportunity for him to benefit from his down time!

Yeah I have , and you havent ! and I know it ! your knowledge is from the media not from boxing , you got NO argument worth a fck all you do is argue opinion , you would be thrown out of court and banished to the ship of fools and its crowded sailing .

[komandante]

USADA never released Floyd's A & B sample which according to the well respected boxing writer Thomas Hauser was positive..

[ADP02]

What are you answering here you lost me with your first response, I feel who asked for the weight is not in question , champs fight at the division limit , thats the how its always been , who asks for a CW is irrelevant to the its influence on the result , Floyd fought JMM weighing lighter that what Manny did , so I dont see your point , JMM worked his way up to that weight with good KO wins over bigger guys and had been coming into the ring since his 135 days around the same weight 143-146 so its not the big deal you think its , Floyd comes from the same place as did all the LWs that move to WW .

All they doing is not drying out and they are training through camp at a higher weight , its easier for them because they dont have to stay on edge to make their lightest weight , you kids make laugh how you hang onto numbers but you dont understand what the mechanics of the numbers are , you got to understand the weigh-in weight and fight night weight , and how can be manipulated and how it can help you or ruin you , its not just numbers .

4 pd at weigh-in to a SMW is like 8 pd to a WW , Ward with a 164 CW against such a smaller fighter and being as elite as he is it would add up to much For Floyd with Ward being 175-185 on the night , there would be near a 30 lb on the night difference .

Now change it a little its a 158 CW and Ward weighed 160 , Ward would come in around 165-170 , because his to make 160 body does not have the mass to get the water back into , go look that HW that went down to 175 , forget his name , look at Oscar another case , weight in boxing has laws that control it , the numbers must be clearly defined for sound reasons other wise your fighter is gunna get belted just like Oscar did , going up in weight will never hurt you , even Roach didnt understand that when he said JMM will be slower and forced to slug , kinda back fired on Freddie there , he out smarted himself and should have learnt after Bradley , coming up dont weaken them .

Marquez was 2 fights away from having to go up 3 weight divisions. Most people can't do that effectively. Especially when he then needs to fight someone the caliber of Floyd. Its much much harder than someone (Cotto) who came in at 146lbs his last fight and then had to go down to 145lbs against Manny. Also, Cotto said post-fight that he lost because he didn't see Manny's quick punches.

Manny like Marquez tried to move up several divisions and succeeded but that doesn't happen every day especially when you see that Manny is not big in size. Even your hero Floyd can't believe and questions more Manny going up to WW and beating them big boys than discussing CWs.

Just to go down a couple of pounds is usually OK. Going from HW to 175 is much much harder on your body.

Coralles - Castillo and had bigger problems going down to 130 - 135. At times, they didn't make weight. At times, the were weight drained. Corrales was severely weight drained against Floyd. Castillo had to drop a lot of weight before Floyd's fight.

[SoulByThePound]

Prize idiot. Fighting once a year and only being subject to testing for 2 months of that looks very, very su****ious.

better than entering the ring on it and having it in your system after the fight


Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

[SoulByThePound]

USADA never released Floyd's A & B sample which according to the well respected boxing writer Thomas Hauser was positive..

why would they not....usada released armstrong things and he was more popular than floyd mayweather on a world scale


Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

[junior gong]

Yeah I have , and you havent ! and I know it ! your knowledge is from the media not from boxing , you got NO argument worth a fck all you do is argue opinion , you would be thrown out of court and banished to the ship of fools and its crowded sailing .

I dont believe you for even a second. It is shown by the fact that you are a fan of one fighter,maybe two(Broner is my guess). I have been around and involved with boxing since I was a little kid, boxing and boxing people make up a large portion of my life. Now there is absoutely nothing wrong with being a fan of the sport and that doesnt mean that a boxing fans opinion is less valid than a boxers, in fact, some of the boxers I currently know arent great followers of the sport and arent that knowledgeable about the history of the sport or have an in depth knowledge of or even care what goes on in world boxing. They follow it, but not closely.

In short, the only place I come across fanboys, bumsniffs, flowjobs etc. Is on the internet. I have never met one through training or fighting, at fight cards - amateur, professional and unlicenced, not at the social events for the regional association or the fundraisers and presentation events for my gym, absolutely never, doesnt happen.

You're a bs merchant and its obvious. It occured to me recently that floydiots remind me of charlie ****in zelenoff...you probably even look and sound like that twat.

[Reloaded]

Marquez was 2 fights away from having to go up 3 weight divisions. Most people can't do that effectively. Especially when he then needs to fight someone the caliber of Floyd. Its much much harder than someone (Cotto) who came in at 146lbs his last fight and then had to go down to 145lbs against Manny. Also, Cotto said post-fight that he lost because he didn't see Manny's quick punches.

Manny like Marquez tried to move up several divisions and succeeded but that doesn't happen every day especially when you see that Manny is not big in size. Even your hero Floyd can't believe and questions more Manny going up to WW and beating them big boys than discussing CWs.

Just to go down a couple of pounds is usually OK. Going from HW to 175 is much much harder on your body.

Coralles - Castillo and had bigger problems going down to 130 - 135. At times, they didn't make weight. At times, the were weight drained. Corrales was severely weight drained against Floyd. Castillo had to drop a lot of weight before Floyd's fight.

Bulldust its much harder on Cotto than it was on JMM , because JMM came up and has boxed at the very same fight weight for years , this aint a WW 6ft Hearns he went up to fight , its same hight Floyd , a former LW himself who had been out of the ring for 2 yrs !

Cotto was forced to come below his already lowest limits , the numbers are not set in stone for everybody a pound at the wrong end can ruin you at this level , its an individual thing how low you can go , Cotto making 146 a yr earlier doesnt mean that extra 1 wont do anything 12mths later , if Cotto was very dry at 146 then 145 can shove him over the edge , Cotto said himself that he would never try that again , he is an honest man to me , if it ment nothing why demand it .

Going up 2-4 pounds wont do jack to hurt you , its like a sliding scale , in the middle is perfect fight weight for you , each notch down will 100% definitely take something away from you , each notch up will make your stronger at the cost of speed , noting that it needs to be a great jump to hurt speed a lot , JMM fought at a fight weight of 143-147 while weighing in as a LW , its not hard to grasp what Im telling about weight if you look at it .

.

[junior gong]

better than entering the ring on it and having it in your system after the fight


Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

But still not completely clean.