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  • pugilistprophet1994
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    #51
    Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
    What, too much color?
    Lol making it a race thing right away? Let's see, Ward at #4? He's top 3 arguably #1. Bradley who shouldn't be on there, not that high at least. Maybe #10 and even that's pushing it. Matthysse? Dude is a beast but his best win is against Olusegen or Soto.. Broner? You have Broner and Matthysse ahead of Viloria. Kiltschko needs to be top 10, he is the king of the heavyweight division. Rios, Maidana, Gamboa, John, Alexander, Alvarez, Dawson just missed? None of them can even make a case for the top 15.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #52
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      Losing to fighters moving up in weight has no bearing and is of no relevence here so dont keep mentioning it.

      Pac is a small fighter moving up as well, and he shouldnt be penalised in any way just cos Pac can beat bigger fighters dont mean to say Pac is a big fighter.
      You will not convince anyone that Pac is bigger than JMM or Bradley. Dont confuse having proved you can beat big fighters as being a big fighter.
      of course it does. manny lost to 2 smaller guys hje was huge favorites against. If you cant beat the guys you are favored to then you lose your p4p spot. its really simple.

      pac beats bigger stand still come forward fighters. but when he fights better boxers like jmm and bradley, he loses. another reason why he lost his #3 p4p spot.

      No credible fan or journalist has manny in the top 5 p4p anymore.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #53
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Floyd has fought some common opponents to Pac and aquitted himself quite well. But if Floyd fought Pacs opponents as regular as Pac did, and as many Pac has, and not taken layoffs floyd would have at least 3 losses on his resume.

        Thats why Floyd would do badly in a super 6 tournament and would likely come bottom of it.
        Floyd is about no9 p4p, which isnt bad considering.
        manny doesn't lose because he fights twice a year, he loses because he isn't that good a boxer. he can beat the stand still, come forward, TR guys all day, especially when he fights them at a catchweight that enhances manny's advantages.

        But when he gets in their with guys who can box like tim and jmm, he loses or gets KTFO!!! On every repurable site where objective media people are asked to rank p4p noxers, floyd is #1. Manny isn't even top 6.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          of course it does. manny lost to 2 smaller guys hje was huge favorites against. If you cant beat the guys you are favored to then you lose your p4p spot. its really simple.

          pac beats bigger stand still come forward fighters. but when he fights better boxers like jmm and bradley, he loses. another reason why he lost his #3 p4p spot.

          No credible fan or journalist has manny in the top 5 p4p anymore.
          Again, Pac didnt lose to smaller guys, they are the same size as Pac or bigger. Pac was favourite cos thats how great they think Pac was.

          But considering JMM is rather good as was Bradley, it dont automatically put you out of top 5 stop making rules up as you go along. And cos everyone saw Pac get robbed by bradley is another reason Pac dont automatically leave top 5, not to mention Pac was ahead against JMM his style nightmare. Pacs not supposed to look great JMM so is not going to be penalized.

          Floyds never beaten a top p4p guy. JMM wasnt at 147 and SSM just wasnt. So Floyd dont deserve no1 at all considering he dont fight as well.

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          • TheHook84
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            #55
            Here is my top 10:

            1) Nonito Donaire
            2) Floyd Mayweather
            3) Juan Manuel Marquez
            4) Manny Pacquiao
            5) Andre Ward
            6) Timothy Bradley
            7) Brian Viloria
            8) Adrien Broner
            9) Mercito Gesta
            10) Wladimir Klitschko

            Nonito Donaire gets the top spot over Mayweather because he fights more while Mayweather barely fights.

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            • pugilistprophet1994
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              #56
              Originally posted by TheHook84
              Here is my top 10:

              1) Nonito Donaire
              2) Floyd Mayweather
              3) Juan Manuel Marquez
              4) Manny Pacquiao
              5) Andre Ward
              6) Timothy Bradley
              7) Brian Viloria
              8) Adrien Broner
              9) Mercito Gesta
              10) Wladimir Klitschko

              Nonito Donaire gets the top spot over Mayweather because he fights more while Mayweather barely fights.
              This might have topped the original for worst list I've ever seen. Mercito Gesta!? LMAOOOOOO! Broner shouldn't be anywhere near any top 10 lists. Donaire shouldn't be number one either. Decent list, not as bad as the first one though.

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                #57
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Again, Pac didnt lose to smaller guys, they are the same size as Pac or bigger. Pac was favourite cos thats how great they think Pac was.

                But considering JMM is rather good as was Bradley, it dont automatically put you out of top 5 stop making rules up as you go along. And cos everyone saw Pac get robbed by bradley is another reason Pac dont automatically leave top 5, not to mention Pac was ahead against JMM his style nightmare. Pacs not supposed to look great JMM so is not going to be penalized.

                Floyds never beaten a top p4p guy. JMM wasnt at 147 and SSM just wasnt. So Floyd dont deserve no1 at all considering he dont fight as well.
                what top p4p guy has pac beaten recently and you yourself just said jmm wasn't at 47?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by hugh grant
                  Again, Pac didnt lose to smaller guys, they are the same size as Pac or bigger. Pac was favourite cos thats how great they think Pac was.

                  But considering JMM is rather good as was Bradley, it dont automatically put you out of top 5 stop making rules up as you go along. And cos everyone saw Pac get robbed by bradley is another reason Pac dont automatically leave top 5, not to mention Pac was ahead against JMM his style nightmare. Pacs not supposed to look great JMM so is not going to be penalized.

                  Floyds never beaten a top p4p guy. JMM wasnt at 147 and SSM just wasnt. So Floyd dont deserve no1 at all considering he dont fight as well.
                  of course manny was bigger. but if you can't admit it its cool. no reputable site that asks objective media members to vote for p4p has manny in the top 5. NOT ONE! why would anyone risk their credibility by putting manny in the top 5 or 6?

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                  • illmaticfighter
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by iseah100
                    This might have topped the original for worst list I've ever seen. Mercito Gesta!? LMAOOOOOO! Broner shouldn't be anywhere near any top 10 lists. Donaire shouldn't be number one either. Decent list, not as bad as the first one though.
                    it's decent but mercito gesta gtfo definitely some bias he replaces gesta and apologizes for his bias and i think all will be forgiven lol at gesta.

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn

                      manny doesn't lose because he fights twice a year, he loses because he isn't that good a boxer.

                      But when he gets in their with guys who can box like tim and jmm, he loses or gets KTFO!!! On every repurable site where objective media people are asked to rank p4p noxers, floyd is #1. Manny isn't even top 6.
                      Floyd dont lose, cos he dont fight you are right there.
                      And yes Pac beat Bradley and JMM 3 times. And FLoyd lost to Castillo.

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