They didn't have to do Manny Pacquiao like that!

[The Big Dunn]

I'm not saying that Pacquiao denying OST had no effect on the issue and the outlook, I'm saying that Floyd Mayweather and GBP did start it, they promoted that Pacquiao was on steroids..that simple.


In the end they just went about it the wrong way, at college before Pacquiao denied OST, people would ask..."So you believe Pac on roids?"
His name and steroids were linked.

agreed. but manny could have difused it easily. floyd's influence clearly isn't that great.

[BoxingFollower]

agreed. but manny could have difused it easily. floyd's influence clearly isn't that great.

Agreed, well what do you think about the influence of GBP?

[junior gong]

The refusal and then the way they dragged it on for so long making lame excuses to then eventually agree was ****** as hell and made them look su****ious. Only a moron would think people wouldn't question them for refusing a drug test.

That wasnt the point tho was it, and its no surprise that the floyd fluffkins conveniently forget that. If Mayweather/gbp had behaved properly they wouldnt have been forced into a toecurlingly embarrasing climbdown later would they.

[junior gong]

so you think it was floyd's accusations made objective, casual fans react the way the TS believes? that would mean floyd had a rather large sphere of influence.

I dont think casual fans either think that or give a toss either way, and you arent an objective fan.

[The Big Dunn]

Agreed, well what do you think about the influence of GBP?

not significant either. people get fingers pointed at them in sports all the time-how they react is the main factor in how the media covers it, which in turn is directly correlated with public opinion.

If manny told floyd to shut the **** up or said nothing everything likely would've been good. but when you suggest things like I'm afraid of needles, and you have tattoos-well what would you expect a journalist is going to ask.

its no different for floyd. hes made some ****** media related mistakes as well. he tries to blame everyone but its him.

[The Big Dunn]

I dont think casual fans either think that or give a toss either way, and you arent an objective fan.

well the TS feels otherwise and I tried to answer his question. Yes I am a floyd fan-one that has always maintained manny was clean, even when taking jabs at or making fun of him.

[illmaticfighter]

in this era you don't pass up chances to prove your clean.

[ItsTrue]

Agreed, well what do you think about the influence of GBP?

Do you believe he was dirty?

[BigAlexSand]

I understand that, but geesh, was there a better way to do this?? Maybe in negotiations only?

The fact that Pacquiaos own adviser Michael Koncz has stated Pac never agreed to testing up to the fight... Medications first took place for them to to fight in 2010 and the main problem has been the drug testing which Mayweather had ask for; Random blood and urine by USDA up to fight day. Every time Arum has claimed it has been Mayweather who stoped the possibility for the fight, yet constantly being reiterated by his own company and camps.

The fact they have been on record not wanting the Olympic test, sue Golden Boy and Mayweather. Then to here his camp, and others who supported pacquiao claim Marquez took PEDs, is rediculous; including when the testing came under their demands and came clear.

[UrDazed]

Pac did it to himself. WTF?

"I dont want to take tests a day before the fight"

"But Manny you're getting two weeks"

"No still too close"

- Brian Kenny