If Bruce Lee had been a boxer

[THE REAL NINJA]

I see what amounts to a training video. I was hoping it would be a real fight.

And by the way, stick fighting (or, "stick fencing") is alternatively called "Arnis de Mano", simply "Arnis" or "Ulisi". And Danny Inosanto, though among the leading practitioners, was not considered the ace.

An "Arnis" player may use two sticks (one long and one short) or one long stick. Most "Arnis" players learn skills in what is sometimes called "Chako", or "Chaku" or, "Nunchako", "Nunchucks", etc.--- basically a combat instrument made up of two relatively short sticks joined together by a metal swivel or a strong twine. Bruce was adept in it.

The capital of the sport is widely conceded to be Cebu, an island right in the middle of the Philippine archipelago. Knowledgeable folks there mention names like the Canete brothers (particularly one named "Cacoy" or "Kakoy") as prime exponents. If Bruce Lee did indeed spend time in the Philippines to learn "Arnis", he would have chosen Cebu. Anyone who has spent time in Cebu will quickly be disabused from his belief that Bruce was ever there.

Custodians of the sport's tradition is a club named "Doce Pares" which traces its origins to the Spanish colonial era in the Philippines. Lore has it that "stick fighting" was invented because the colonizers banned the natives from carrying bladed weapons other than the farm knives (also called "bolo", thus, the "Bolo punch", invented by Filipino boxing champ Ceferino Garcia, a middleweight). Before Arnis the natives fought with their "Kris" and "Kampilan"--- long swords: the first had blades that looked like a snake the other had an unusually broad middle that tapered at the tip and right before the hilt.

The Canetes used to be the leaders of Doce Pares in the 50s, 60s and early 70s. But my understanding is that some two decades ago, some organizational issues arose, causing the Canetes to leave the group and form their own. The name of the current Canete group has slipped my mind.

The original group, Doce Pares, is still extant.

ok and what is your point all i said was that is the man that trained the man that showed me....don't get me wrong he was trained by more then one person that was just the big name guy he likes to tell people about

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ok and what is your point all i said was that is the man that trained the man that showed me....don't get me wrong he was trained by more then one person that was just the big name guy he likes to tell people about

Just gave the full name of Dan Inosanto and how he stands in the sport. You said so yourself that you can't spell his name.

Moreover, I checked that video, and it doesn't look to me like an honest-to-goodness fight. More like a training video or one of a demonstration. It doesn't really edify as to what Bruce would have been had he taken up serious competitive western boxing.

That's all.

[THE REAL NINJA]

Just gave the full name of Dan Inosanto and how he stands in the sport. You said so yourself that you can't spell his name.

Moreover, I checked that video, and it doesn't look to me like an honest-to-goodness fight. More like a training video or one of a demonstration. It doesn't really edify as to what Bruce would have been had he taken up serious competitive western boxing.

That's all.

i didnt say it was a fight vid go back and look ...i was just saying look how fast he was....and as far as dan i know who and what he is buddy i was big into martial arts at one time just not now...i fell out of love with it ......as far as bruce no one knows ...i think he would do well but who knows

[TOPitBull]

please support ur argument..

A boxer trains at boxing, 100% of the time, he's preparing for a match.

Jeet kune do is a martial art.

Time is spent on kicking, knees, punching, elbows, etc.

This is a point that doesn't need justification, Bruce was the best at what he does, JKD, not boxing.

If I wanna be a boxer, I box, and train like a boxer. If I want to be a Hockey player, I play hockey, and skate. If I want to be a Kung Fu star, I climb trees and punch cocnuts. get it?

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i didnt say it was a fight vid go back and look ...i was just saying look how fast he was....and as far as dan i know who and what he is buddy i was big into martial arts at one time just not now...i fell out of love with it ......as far as bruce no one knows ...i think he would do well but who knows

You didn't say so, you're right. The web address was just there, without comment. I went and checked it. Not because of anything you said, but on my own. I hoped it would be a real fight. It would have been the first time I would have seen Bruce in real action.

I share your thoughts that Bruce MAY have...COULD HAVE... and, that, all that's left of us is speculate. We will never know for sure, I guess.

Any position one takes re the thread starter is sure to be punched full of holes. There's just not enough evidence to support any claim, one way or the other. And that was my initial response carried on my initial post on this thread.

[THE REAL NINJA]

You didn't say so, you're right. The web address was just there, without comment. I went and checked it. Not because of anything you said, but on my own. I hoped it would be a real fight. It would have been the first time I would have seen Bruce in real action.

I share your thoughts that Bruce MAY have...COULD HAVE... and, that, all that's left of us is speculate. We will never know for sure, I guess.

Any position one takes re the thread starter is sure to be punched full of holes. There's just not enough evidence to support any claim, one way or the other. And that was my initial response carried on my initial post on this thread.

lol your right sorry about that ...i swear i thought i said it was not a fight just a workout...

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lol your right sorry about that ...i swear i thought i said it was not a fight just a workout...

No big deal, buddy. Happens to me a lot.

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how would have bruce lee effected the world of boxing?
it is true that he knew the art of western boxing.

if he were to step in the boxing ring, i think he certainly would have been the deadliest combination of fast and power punching, he weighed in the 130's, I think he would have been the pound4pound greatest in the 130's for a long long time.

Any thoughts on this, and who do u guyz feel would have been able to possibly beat him.

The man definitely had the talent to take it all the way to the top. We may not have seen the man fight. But there's no question about his work ethic.

To sum it all up... Natural athletic ability + Great work ethic
= World champ
Questions about his chin. When you are that fast, who cares if you have a glass chin.... Just ask RJJ, it took us almost two-three decades to find out.

Hell Mayweather's chin is still up in the air.