Most Unforgivable RTD/Quit?

[Doctor_Tenma]

Ortiz's quitting was most disgraceful. He was practically hurting/ or dropping Maidana with every clean punch he threw, especially the right hook, so for him to quit like that and not gamble, that was straight up shameful. Ortiz was also ahead in the fight. Alexander on the other hand couldn't handle the pressure, all he could do was hold, the way he quit was shameful but unlike Ortiz, he had nothing to offer his opponent.

[Porter's Dad]

Ortiz's quitting was most disgraceful. He was practically hurting/ or dropping Maidana with every clean punch he threw, especially the right hook, so for him to quit like that and not gamble, that was straight up shameful. Ortiz was also ahead in the fight. Alexander on the other hand had nothing to offer, he couldn't handle the pressure, all he could do was hold, the way he quit was shameful but unlike Ortiz, he had nothing to offer his opponent.

Ortiz was getting beat the hell up. Devon was getting outworked.




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[BennyST]

Ortiz's quitting was most disgraceful. He was practically hurting/ or dropping Maidana with every clean punch he threw, especially the right hook, so for him to quit like that and not gamble, that was straight up shameful. Ortiz was also ahead in the fight. Alexander on the other hand couldn't handle the pressure, all he could do was hold, the way he quit was shameful but unlike Ortiz, he had nothing to offer his opponent.

I watched this fight again last night and, whether it was my memory slipping or i just noticed it more last night, Ortiz was getting brutalised to the body.

You could see it in the second round especially. He was getting hit in every clinch and it was clearly really hurting him. Then when he got dropped from that body shot...he knew he didn't have a chance against Maidana in such beast mode. He just slowly getting destroyed and it was certainly the body shots that made him give it all up.

Edit: also, he should have been a righty. He's just not comfortable as a lefty. Every time he throws the left hand he brings his left leg with him so he ends up standing straight up in front of his opponent completely squared up. It's why he gets dropped so much. It's the reason he kept getting hit so bad in that fight.

It's a pity I guess. If he had stayed righty, he would be so much better I think. His balance and footwork would be much, much, much better and I think he wouldn't struggle as much with that indecision to be either a boxer or brawler because he wouldn't get hit so easily and wouldn't struggle with ****** mistakes like bringing his back foot up. Even when he has his feet in position his shoulders are so squared up still.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Ortiz was getting beat the hell up. Devon was getting outworked.




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I'm speaking more in a sense that Ortiz was fully capable of changing the fight around, he has that kind of ability and power. Alexander on the other hand couldn't do a thing, Bradley was pretty much eating away at him in close and didn't allow Alexander to get off from long range. Of course Ortiz took the bigger beating, not dis*****g that but this is why I consider Ortiz's quitting to be more disgraceful, not that I'm justifying what Devon did.

[Porter's Dad]

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Originally Posted by Garcia's Dad

Ortiz was getting beat the hell up. Devon was getting outworked.




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I'm speaking more in a sense that Ortiz was fully capable of changing the fight around, he has that kind of ability and power. Alexander on the other hand couldn't do a thing, Bradley was pretty much eating away at him in close and didn't allow Alexander to get off from long range. Of course Ortiz took the bigger beating, not dis*****g that but this is why I consider Ortiz's quitting to be more disgraceful, not that I'm justifying what Devon did.

Ortiz, by that point, was pretty much done. When you're getting beat up that bad, and your face is turning into a mess with grotesque welts, it doesn't matter that you've got the power to hurt this guy. It was a firefight and he realised he had lost. Devon stunk it up and then faked his way out of it. At least Ortiz lay it on the line for a while. Did Devon?




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[Lorily]

He only had two fights with Corrales.

Whoops. Fixed it.

(in my best Eddie Murphy voice)

YEAH. DATWUTIMENTTASAY!

[Doctor_Tenma]

Ortiz, by that point, was pretty much done. When you're getting beat up that bad, and your face is turning into a mess with grotesque welts, it doesn't matter that you've got the power to hurt this guy. It was a firefight and he realised he had lost. Devon stunk it up and then faked his way out of it. At least Ortiz lay it on the line for a while. Did Devon?




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What I'm saying is, against their perspective opponents, Ortiz had the ability to turn things around, Devon didn't and it showed from the getgo. Ortiz was only eating over hand rights because he decided to box, back up straight, he never took it upon himself to gamble again. Ortiz quit knowing very well that he could hurt Maidana, that Maidana lacked defense and was vulnerable. Devon quit shamefully as well but again, there was absolutely nothing he could do in there, that's the opposite of Ortiz's situation. Rarely do you see fighters quit in Ortiz's situation.

[edgarg]

None of them. The most unconvincing "retirement" I've seen was of Camacho Junior against Jesse James Leija.

many of the choice retirements were in late rounds, which makes "retirement" far less likely anyway.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I watched this fight again last night and, whether it was my memory slipping or i just noticed it more last night, Ortiz was getting brutalised to the body.

You could see it in the second round especially. He was getting hit in every clinch and it was clearly really hurting him. Then when he got dropped from that body shot...he knew he didn't have a chance against Maidana in such beast mode. He just slowly getting destroyed and it was certainly the body shots that made him give it all up.

Edit: also, he should have been a righty. He's just not comfortable as a lefty. Every time he throws the left hand he brings his left leg with him so he ends up standing straight up in front of his opponent completely squared up. It's why he gets dropped so much. It's the reason he kept getting hit so bad in that fight.

It's a pity I guess. If he had stayed righty, he would be so much better I think. His balance and footwork would be much, much, much better and I think he wouldn't struggle as much with that indecision to be either a boxer or brawler because he wouldn't get hit so easily and wouldn't struggle with ****** mistakes like bringing his back foot up. Even when he has his feet in position his shoulders are so squared up still.

Maybe but as much as I dislike Ortiz, one thing I love about him is his right hook right uppercut combination, you rarely see that from southpaws. What Victor shouldn't be trying to do is box, his straight left hand ain't all that which is why Floyd kept moving to his left, I'm certain Roger saw that, it's best he stays a pressure fighter and commits to it. It's when he boxed that Maidana started to land the overhand rights, that Peterson found himself back in the fight...he's simply no boxer.

[queenleia]

The Matrix against the King...especially two years later with the ABSENCE of a doctor note.