Lucas Matthyse fans: his best win is Humberto soto

[r__mutt]

i must be buggin but i thought he lost to alexander and judah

Not sure why I'm even wasting my time replying to this filth, but here goes.

1. Most believe he beat Judah, so there's Judah.

2. I need to watch the Judah fight again to be sure myself and maybe Judah is just a name, but there's no way he lost the Alexander fight.

3. Pretty sure Soto gives Khan and the shot Morales that Danny fought a run for their money.

4. Don't want to jump on the Ajose train (is there even one?), and this is less founded than my other points, but Ajose probably beats most at 140 right now if any of them were willing to fight him. Dude is mad quick, awkward, good footwork, and has a solid chin. Was the mando and no one wanted to fight him (won't say Garcia ducked him because I don't have any sources, but that's how the legend goes).

5. Sure he's fought his fair share of tomato cans (who hasn't?), but he's also finished nearly all of them by TKO/KO. Most boxers with similarly padded records (again, pretty much everyone) can't say the same. Is knocking out tomato cans a great achievement, ATG material? No, but it's unarguably better than UD/MD/SDing tomato cans.

[bigcursedawg]

Matthyse going life and death with a shopworn Judah raised alot of red flags in my mind about his potential as an elite level fighter.

Khan completely walked thru Judah, dominated Kotelnyk, beat Maidana & Malinaggi, dropped a contested decision to Peterson...got completely obliterated by Garcia.

There's no question who the best fighter @ 140 is as of right now, and it damn sure ain't Matthysse. He just barely squeeks into the top 3.

Going life and death with Judah. That's not even close to life and death if that's how you felt about that fight then the same can be said for Garcia vs Holt. Holt who you could argue was shopworn too. This is the same guy who quit on his stool against Mabuza.

People forget Zab was a heavy favorite against the then unknown Matthysse. Lucas had fought limited opposition at that point and had only gone past 4 rounds once in his career. He was brought in as a opponent with a shiny record so it would look like a good win for Judah. In considering those facts I think he did pretty well. But yarh sure he could have done better. Hindsight is 20/20

[Russian Crushin]

who said triangle theories work?you can say you was amir biggest fan it doesn't chang the fact that you been *****ing on amir to hate on danny i guess yet praise lucas for being a victim of contraversial losses but amir has a contraversial loss and a win over him means nothing because of that

Im not his biggest fan, but i was a big fan until after the peterson fight. Im not ****ting on Khan, im just telling you what the situation was/is. Most of my "hate" comes from Khan. First of all let me explain my Khan robbery. I think he was robbed because the ref took 2 points off which took the win away from him and i thought that was unfair to take a win away by 2 deductions like that. It was also a close fight that could have gone both ways.

If you acknowledge Khan getting robbed and give him a break for it, why isnt lucas given a break like that?

[letsgobrady]

Im not his biggest fan, but i was a big fan until after the peterson fight. Im not ****ting on Khan, im just telling you what the situation was/is. Most of my "hate" comes from Khan. First of all let me explain my Khan robbery. I think he was robbed because the ref took 2 points off which took the win away from him and i thought that was unfair to take a win away by 2 deductions like that. It was also a close fight that could have gone both ways.

If you acknowledge Khan getting robbed and give him a break for it, why isnt lucas given a break like that?

what you mean by given a break?amir loss i know he loss unlike you who can't seem to deal with the fact that lucas lost twice it's you that and other people that give credit to lucas for 2 losses then knock garcia win over amir by saying he lost to peterson before fighting danny so if you acknowledge that amir loss than you should also acknowledge that lucas lost to judah and alexander

[Barry Halls]

i must be buggin but i thought he lost to alexander and judah

that's what boxrec tells you, but please watch the fights.

[El_Forklift]

and he made him fold. and I hate to say this since Im a big fan of La zorrita.

[-Jay-]

Would take the Olusegun win over that. That guy was a solid undefeated contender at 140.

Of course I would also count the Alexander robbery.

Judah is debatable.

Green k for truth.

[RubenSonny]

Soto is a two time, two division world champion with about 8 title defenses all up. He's a very good fighter and deserves to be mentioned on anyone's resume as among the best they fought.

No he really doesn't, this is only based off name value.

[HWChampion]

The fight should have never happened between Rios and Alvardo. Simply because Abril beat rios. Ajose, Soto, Judah and Alexander make a pretty good resume.

[Da Machine]

Going life and death with Judah. That's not even close to life and death if that's how you felt about that fight then the same can be said for Garcia vs Holt. Holt who you could argue was shopworn too. This is the same guy who quit on his stool against Mabuza.

People forget Zab was a heavy favorite against the then unknown Matthysse. Lucas had fought limited opposition at that point and had only gone past 4 rounds once in his career. He was brought in as a opponent with a shiny record so it would look like a good win for Judah. In considering those facts I think he did pretty well. But yarh sure he could have done better. Hindsight is 20/20

Damn I didn't know he had only went past4 rds once. Matthysse really was as green as they come and still arguably won.

Makes more sense why he has so noticeably improved sine then.