If both Klitchkos retired today, would there be a dominant heavyweight Champ?

[The Nephilim]

Not many.. It's enough to read the last 4-5 threads on this forum about Klitschkos.
You can't say anything positive without the following post contains Sanders/Brewster/glass chin and so on...

Just like you can say McCall/Rahman/glass chin etc. every time you talk about Lennox Lewis.

Haters are indeed gonna hate. But the Klitschkos are more hated in the USA for obvious reasons than any other HW champs.

Even Lennox wasn't from the "Evil Empire" ridiculed in Rocky IV.

[The Nephilim]

What he said.
Then Wlad kills Haye again and we would have a unified champ, finally

I dont think we will see a unified champ in a long time, I have a feeling Wlad with his belts will be one of the last we see because there are just too many belts and agendas once you have a plastic strap

The idea that Vitali is suddenly this old cripple just waiting for Haye to KO him is hilarious.

Vitali would be very motivated and prepared for Haye should they fight, moreso than he has been since he demolished Adamek. Haye would run and do the same crap he did versus Valuev (who he should have lost to) and Wlad.

Haye will never beat Vitali if Vitali is 50 years old.

[Shogunofharlem1]

If Vitali would fight Haye we'd have a new WBC champion right now

Yes he would except on fight night Hayes phantom foot problems will start happening again.

[Jam Jars]

Yes he would except on fight night Hayes phantom foot problems will start happening again.

But the Klitschko water will be poisoned so it balances itself out.

[kiDynamite92]

Yeah David Price. He's the heir to the Klitschko's thrown. As of now I would say he's the 4th best heavyweightout. Behind the Klitschko's and Haye. But if the Klitschko's retire than so would Haye, than price will take over.

[ShamrockXpress]

Hayes done nothing to suggest he would beat vitali, he stopped chisora when vitali couldn't? All anyone ever talks about on this site is how triangle theories don't work, but if its hating on a klitschko then it must be true, chisora was tailor made for haye, a face first pressure fighter, haye has explosive power where vitali is now more of a clubbing break you down type puncher, chisora has a very good chin, he didnt respect hayes power and ran on to shots he didnt see coming, haye would buckle after a few right hands from dr eisenfaust, if theres one thing vitali can do its dominate the centre of the ring

[Jam Jars]

Hayes done nothing to suggest he would beat vitali, he stopped chisora when vitali couldn't? All anyone ever talks about on this site is how triangle theories don't work, but if its hating on a klitschko then it must be true, chisora was tailor made for haye, a face first pressure fighter, haye has explosive power where vitali is now more of a clubbing break you down type puncher, chisora has a very good chin, he didnt respect hayes power and ran on to shots he didnt see coming, haye would buckle after a few right hands from dr eisenfaust, if theres one thing vitali can do its dominate the centre of the ring

A lot a Klitschko fans back Vitali to win, but a lot of those same people don't want the fight to happen. That tells me they aren't so confident in their opinion.

[Shogunofharlem1]

A lot a Klitschko fans back Vitali to win, but a lot of those same people don't want the fight to happen. That tells me they aren't so confident in their opinion.

I think people dont want the fight to happen because it will be anticlimatic. I think vitali will win for sure but I dont necessarily want to see it especially knowing the haye will just trash talk before the fight and put on a poor showing during it.

[Jam Jars]

I think people dont want the fight to happen because it will be anticlimatic. I think vitali will win for sure but I dont necessarily want to see it especially knowing the haye will just trash talk before the fight and put on a poor showing during it.

You don't want to see the fight because it might be poor? Almost every Klitschko fight is poor, atleast this one would have some personal hate involved and would motivate Vitali more than any fight has in years. So the excuse of it might be a poor fight doesn't hold up, i think it's fans wanting to show support but knowing that Haye has a real chance of beating Vitali and that's the real reason they don't want to see the fight.

[White_Knight]

The idea that Vitali is suddenly this old cripple just waiting for Haye to KO him is hilarious.

In the end, every fighter, regardless of how great they are, is defeated by age.

When Vitali fought Solis I was thinking "shit, Vitali is getting hit quite a bit here", but I was prepared to attribute it to Solis' quick hands. Then I saw Vitali fight Adamek, and there was no denying it now. Unlike Solis, Adamek is not particularly quick. Nevertheless, he was hitting Vitali more often than other opponents had in the past.

Vitali's last 2 fights have been even worse. In the past Vitali would have stopped Chisora, and the fight would have been a shut-out while it lasted. Now Chisora was taking him the distance and winning 3 or so rounds. Worse still, Charr (a fighter no one had heard of) was giving Vitali problems.

Even if he chooses to fight the winner of the Arreola-Stiverne fight, the chances of him being defeated are quite high.