Antonio Tarver Interview

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  • ProBox1
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    #11
    Originally posted by Zhen
    It's really the same argument I had with Nautilus. I know what you're trying to say Rick: A KO is down for the ten count, and TKO is a stoppage. That's not my point. I'm saying is that Hopkins won over Johnson by knockout, which includes victories under the TKO category.
    In a technical sense, his victory over Glencoffe counts under his knockout wins record.

    To illustrate this, when an announcer reads aloud a fighter's record,
    such as X wins, Y losses, Z wins by way of knockout, those knockout wins include TKO wins as well as KO wins.

    Not to say that I don't know where you're coming from, Rick, I just think it's a result of boxing terminology that can be confusing at times. When someone says knockout, it isn't clear whether it's in the general sense (KO/TKO) or if it refers to a true KO (down for the count).

    Similar case in point: Ricardo Lopez's knockout win over Yamil Caraballo over ten years back. Do you call it a KO win or a TKO win? Some records list it as KO, some by TKO. The referee never officially finished the 10-count, waving off the fight at the count of 6 when Caraballo fell down again when he attempted to get up; people can argue that Caraballo would never have gotten up in time anyway. Just something to think about, anyway.

    In parting....Johnson never went down, but he has been stopped.
    That has no relevance to your initial comment, you commented on a question posed to Tarver. Tarver said is planning to knock Johnson out, he was told that Johnson has never been "knocked out".

    You said Hopkins knocked him out, in terms of a TKO it is true, in terms of a KO it is not. The TKO term is very loose, a guy being down and the fight being stopped because he was about to get knocked out is one thing, a guy getting stopped due to a cut is another. It's like saying Lennox knocked out Vitali when in reality the win is by TKO due to a bad cut stoppage and also in reality one would say that Vitali has never been knocked out.

    Usually when a TKO does not involve a count reaching ten, most refer to the win as "fighter 1 stopped fighter 2 in 6 rounds". People can say Hopkins stopped Johnson, they can never say he knocked him out.

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    • LittleBigMan
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      #12
      i can't believe people think Johnson is p4p status

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