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  • I remember the flip-flop afterwards, too, but oh well, RIP Bert.

    Originally posted by WESS View Post
    Actually the late Bert Sugar when asked about who would win stated; "I think there's a heckuva chance for an upset here. Marquez is no tune up. This is one of the toughest fights Mayweather could have taken, even without the 21 month layoff. I see a very two sided fight that couuld go Marquez's way. If push comes to shove, in terms of a choice I have to make, I now have this fight in my mind's eye, I think Marquez could win a decision. That's why this makes for an intriguing and exciting fight."

    He also made it a point to bring up the "the size differential, but not the weight." Weight was not the issue here. As we all wintnessed an even older JMM at WW in 2011 and 2012.

    Sugar also talked about the historical significance of Mayweather and Marquez, and how one of them can earn the kind of victory that would make history. "Well, they're great fighters within the welterweight division, which is one of the great divisions historically in boxing. That said, when you talk about the welterweight division, you start with Sugar Ray Robinson, and then you go down to Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Kid Gavilan, Carmen Basilio. What this fight can do is place one of them into that pantheon of welterweight greats. We're certainly looking at two of today's greats, and in order for me to place them into the greatest of all time, I'll first need to see them on Saturday night"

    Btw, Bert also picked 5-time Champ Shane Mosley (who was "too good" for Pac) to beat Floyd as well.

    http://www.aolnews.com/2009/09/17/be...y-classic-win/

    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat...ith-bert-sugar

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    • Its going to be The Ghost. This is the worst kept secret in boxing history.Ive been saying this for months.

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      • Originally posted by Ericd314 View Post
        .........................................
        It's taking about as long as it took Manny Pacquiao to wake up from that Marquez punch....and the only problem is that Manny can't even beat his cherry picked opponents (Bradley & JMM)
        lol too funny

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        • Canelo is not way bigger then Floyd. Hes a lil heavier because of his build theyre about the same height. Floyd has been in there with bigger guys Canelos size shouldnt be an issue. Besides the Mayweathers always say its not about size its about skill that much is true. Floyd has actually weighed in at 151 against Cotto so I dont know where you got 148 from.

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          • Originally posted by Boxing's Truth View Post
            Yeah, the same small and old guy who just wrecked the so called P4P champ.
            Lol

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            • Originally posted by NatiKid View Post
              so when pac man decided to fight bradley was he cherry picking a young kid with no knockout power or fighting a young tough opponent?
              Lmfao at Cincanniti Boxing

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              • Originally posted by pnksntdead View Post
                actually, even before the fight against shane happened, people were saying the fight was made about 5 years late. you talk like the floyd-mosely was considered remotely competitive when it was booked.
                When Mosley walked in the ring after Floyd beat Marquez, and destroyed Margirito everybody was like "Floyd is scared of Shane and Pac." When Floyd did fight him, and beat him clearly from round 3-12 all of a sudden Shane got old?

                But look at his last fight with Margarito and tell me how old he looked? The thing with Pac this is his resume after fighting Cotto in 09'

                ALL *******S Listen up! March 2010 He fought Joshua Clottey who lost to Cotto correct? He fought Antonio Maragito who got knocked out by Shane his last fight and had a year suspension correct?

                He then fought Mosley, who got his ass whooped by Floyd had a draw with Sergio Mora... Who? Then he fights Pac in 2011! So those 3 opponents faced Pac coming off of loses how come nobody gives Pac hell for that?

                Fast forward he fights Marquez in November 2011' gets a gift decision that 75-80% of the boxing world thought Marquez won the 3rd fight. So he is still on collision to face Mayweather Now Arum says "We have to build a stadium, Pac has a cutt that needs to be healed, I don't know who to contact for Floyd," the list goes on and on. Then he fights Bradley I gave him the nod on that fight, he didn't look good but he beat Bradley.

                He faces Marquez for the 4th time last month and got put too sleep, left snoring, by a 40 year old Marquez. I say that to say, none of these dudes is on Floyd's level! People keep acting like Floyd doesn't age or something, they say "This fighter is getting old, or that fighter is old" but he will be 36 next month. I said this before and I will say it again, NOBODY here can talk boxing facts with me and try and discredit what I am saying. So yeah people were excited about the Floyd/Mosley fight until the ass whooping came.

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                • Originally posted by INGLEWOOD View Post
                  Canelo is not way bigger then Floyd. Hes a lil heavier because of his build theyre about the same height. Floyd has been in there with bigger guys Canelos size shouldnt be an issue. Besides the Mayweathers always say its not about size its about skill that much is true. Floyd has actually weighed in at 151 against Cotto so I dont know where you got 148 from.
                  Your right Mayweather does say that. But to try and deny that on fight night Canelo comes in @170-175 while Mayweather on fight night the highest he weighed was 151 against Del La Hoya. That is not a little heavier, that's a 20-25pd difference, On fightnight vs Cotto with HBO's official scale mayweather came in @ 148, the commentators were also talking about the cold may was getting over!
                  Last edited by Nahshon Israel; 01-23-2013, 10:13 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Starz20 View Post
                    When Mosley walked in the ring after Floyd beat Marquez, and destroyed Margirito everybody was like "Floyd is scared of Shane and Pac." When Floyd did fight him, and beat him clearly from round 3-12 all of a sudden Shane got old?

                    But look at his last fight with Margarito and tell me how old he looked? The thing with Pac this is his resume after fighting Cotto in 09'

                    ALL *******S Listen up! March 2010 He fought Joshua Clottey who lost to Cotto correct? He fought Antonio Maragito who got knocked out by Shane his last fight and had a year suspension correct?

                    He then fought Mosley, who got his ass whooped by Floyd had a draw with Sergio Mora... Who? Then he fights Pac in 2011! So those 3 opponents faced Pac coming off of loses how come nobody gives Pac hell for that?

                    Fast forward he fights Marquez in November 2011' gets a gift decision that 75-80% of the boxing world thought Marquez won the 3rd fight. So he is still on collision to face Mayweather Now Arum says "We have to build a stadium, Pac has a cutt that needs to be healed, I don't know who to contact for Floyd," the list goes on and on. Then he fights Bradley I gave him the nod on that fight, he didn't look good but he beat Bradley.

                    He faces Marquez for the 4th time last month and got put too sleep, left snoring, by a 40 year old Marquez. I say that to say, none of these dudes is on Floyd's level! People keep acting like Floyd doesn't age or something, they say "This fighter is getting old, or that fighter is old" but he will be 36 next month. I said this before and I will say it again, NOBODY here can talk boxing facts with me and try and discredit what I am saying. So yeah people were excited about the Floyd/Mosley fight until the ass whooping came.
                    ^^^^^
                    Excellent post, this poster knows boxing!!

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                    • cincinnati boxing is legit exp amateurs

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