WLADIMIR KLITSCKO V FLOYD MAYWEATHER, whos more skillful

[Jam Jars]

Wlad is no where close to Mayweathers level, he's got to resort to holding everytime a fighter gets close for fear of getting KTFO. People go on about Wlads skill but he was getting put on his back before he started cheating as a defence.

[Prince_Pugilist]

No doubt Floyd is the more skilled fighter defensively and has a pretty good offense too but Wladimir is clearly the better offensive fighter and isn't too far off in terms of defense. What lets him down is his clumsiness (due to size, although for such a big man he moves very well) whereas Floyd moves or at least used to move, like a well oiled machine.

[Jam Jars]

No doubt Floyd is the more skilled fighter defensively and has a pretty good offense too but Wladimir is clearly the better offensive fighter and isn't too far off in terms of defense. What lets him down is his clumsiness (due to size, although for such a big man he moves very well) whereas Floyd moves or at least used to move, like a well oiled machine.

Wlad's defence is terrible he has to cheat to stop fighters getting to him it's so bad. What he does now can't be classed as a defence because it's against the rules.

[ShoulderRoll]

....but Wladimir is clearly the better offensive fighter...

No, he's not. Floyd has more variety in his offense and in his combinations.

He can do it all, from jabs to lead right hands to the head or body to check hooks to uppercuts and pull counters.

It's not even close really.

[VirusTI]

No, he's not. Floyd has more variety in his offense and in his combinations.

He can do it all, from jabs to lead right hands to the head or body to check hooks to uppercuts and pull counters.

It's not even close really.

Yes it is.

Wlad has just as good on the offense.

His jab is better, his right is about as good if not better, and their lead hooks are at least on par. Floyd has more versatility in the combinations. But overall, power included, Wlad has to be at as good as floyd offensively.

But, like i said earlier, Floyd is miles ahead defensively, which is why he is better than Wlad p4p.

[DARKSEID]

I've never gotten though a whole wlad fight without falling asleep so I can't say.

[crold1]

Yes it is.

Wlad has just as good on the offense.

His jab is better, his right is about as good if not better, and their lead hooks are at least on par. Floyd has more versatility in the combinations. But overall, power included, Wlad has to be at as good as floyd offensively.

But, like i said earlier, Floyd is miles ahead defensively, which is why he is better than Wlad p4p.

Floyd's current offense is more limited and it's still better. Wlad has better power. But he can't throw a counter to save his life and basically has three punches in his arsenal. Watch Floyd from 130-140...it's miles apart. It's why P4P exists in contrast to what is literally the best (the Heavyweight king). If they fought literally, Wlad would eventually nuke Floyd. If they were the same size, all other things being equal, it's a mismatch to Floyd.

[Jcsuper]

[White_Knight]

The only reason we have weight divisions is because the midgets can't compete with the real men. In tennis you don't have divisions for people under 150 lbs. If you can't compete with the big boys, too bad.

[Poet682006]

The only reason we have weight divisions is because the midgets can't compete with the real men. In tennis you don't have divisions for people under 150 lbs. If you can't compete with the big boys, too bad.

Go away Tunney.