The fighter who had everything.

[djtmal]

from a fans perpective this may be true. from a boxing judges stand point your statement would be false.

since you speak of fans/judges...

from the judges standpoint with that particular fight, it was a close, split decision, that they saw sugar ray leonard's way...that means, he landed a few more punches, but he didn't win the fight, but he looked like he did....i don't have a problem with that...

from fan's stanpoints, and even from many experts standpoints, the fight could have been easily scored for hagler...lol

[S. Saddler 1310]

ehhhh, it was a great promotion, but the fight itself, was garbage...you had one guy, the linear champ, who came to fight, against another guy, the challenger, who was basically throwing pitty-pat flash combos, shoeshining, and downright running...the last two rounds were horrible...

now sugar ray leonard, vs. duran 1...that was a great fight...

it was a fine contest, very engaging throughout.

i believe you are just salty because Ray proved himself the superior fighter and the stronger character.

[djtmal]

so, you note that Ray laboured somewhat with Howard and was dropped, yet you don't acknowledge that he was past his best when fighting Marvin some additional (substance-filled) years later?

hmm, interesting.


Leonard will always be Marvin's daddy, bro. Hagler is mentally owned to Ray.

don't get away from the point...the point is, at the time that sugar ray leonard, fought kevin howard, he was in his prime, fighting @ 154 lbs, drug/alcohol free, and marvin hagler was prime, @ 160 lbs...that was the true time that their paths should have crossed...instead of fighting hagler, i guess he figured it was better to get sniffed out on that booger sugar...lol

point is, sugar ray leonard, put himself on the shelf and worked for hbo, while marvelous marvin hagler, was putting in much work, for the 3 years sugar ray leonard, was getting up enough courage...

[djtmal]

it was a fine contest, very engaging throughout.

i believe you are just salty because Ray proved himself the superior fighter and the stronger character.

he was a superior fighter @ welterweight...middleweight?...ehhh...he needed too many provisions...thats just like the flashy hollywood lakers are playing the blue collar celtics, and the lakers rim is 8ft, cause magic ain't got no hops, and celtics rim is 10, because larry bird can hit nothing but net from anywhere on the court....

[New England]

in my top 10 most talented fighters of all time for sure.

great speed
great chin
big power.

[djtmal]

slightly overrated in my book, due to the retiring, and unretiring, and the lalonde fight for two belts was a farce...

[Porter's Dad]

in my top 10 most talented fighters of all time for sure.

great speed
great chin
big power.

"underrated toughster".

That's a phrase you used about him a while ago that stuck with me. It's a great phase. For all his diva behaviour, he was one bad motherf-cker. When all is said and done, he fought Duran, Hearns, Hagler, Benitez.

Incidentally, his book is damn good. He's still my least favourite of the Four Kings but it did make me like him more.

[Capaedia]

prime pac vs prime leonard OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

It would not be competitive.

[djtmal]

i thought he intentionally headbutted benitez, but it was a good win...

[The Noose]

ehhhh, it was a great promotion, but the fight itself, was garbage...you had one guy, the linear champ, who came to fight, against another guy, the challenger, who was basically throwing pitty-pat flash combos, shoeshining, and downright running...the last two rounds were horrible...

now sugar ray leonard, vs. duran 1...that was a great fight...

Wow. Never thought id hear anyone say the fight was garbage. And i see the 'pitty-pat' myth continues. Leonard threw big shots that landed clean, and his flurries were when he was fighting Hagler off him, making Hagler cover up. His shots were never going to hurt Marvin, but those 'pitty-pat' punches were actually great displays of heart and will.

Both Hagler and Duran are better fighters than Sugar Ray Leonard.

They're all pretty much even as far as boxing goes, though.

I just can't give any respect to fighters that fight like little *****es, especially when they "beat" a champion by running away the whole fight.

Its called boxing. Maybe its not what you like but its a sport, and Leonard would be ****** to try and fight on the inside against Hagler all night. He boxed and moved and countered. Ho anyone can say he ran all night baffles me.

i thought he intentionally headbutted benitez, but it was a good win...

Hater. lol