Originally posted by P4P_No1
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Lennox Lewis was going to retire after Tyson
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[QUOTE=Someone88;12920988]My point was that other than Holyfield he doesn't have many great wins, he was impressive in victory though.
Vitali's eye wasn't hanging out, he still could have won. I'm not saying he would have just saying he could have.
Even Vitali WOULD disagree with you, since he'd have no boxing licence and no career after that. Lewis would have ended his career.
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Originally posted by DreamFighter View Postoh this debateis so dumb, Vitali was 33 wasnt he? Exactly how much longer does a boxer require to reach his prime?
If you arent prime by 33 then you arent much good to begin with, and you arent going to get better. Even the latest bloomers like Bernard Hopkins had peaked around that age.
Like I said, he had every advantage but he failed on the big stage, as he has always done.
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Originally posted by Someone88 View PostOther than Holyfield who has Lewis fought that was near the level of Vitali?
Put it this way (and I hate doing it like this but)
Lewis TKO Shannon Briggs in 5 back in, what '98?
Yet he goes the full distance with Vitali a few years back? (Supposedly when Vitali is in his prime eh?)
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Originally posted by Someone88 View PostNo it's not that simple. Fighting isn't maths, you should know that. Vitali wasn't that experienced when they fought. If Lewis was more dominant then your argument would be stronger, but he wasn't dominant.
Since then Vitali has been dominating,
Make it clear what you mean. The former means he really won, the second that he had a good start but got wasted later in the fight (which is what happens when your eye gets torn to peices for a tko).Last edited by DreamFighter; 01-16-2013, 06:08 AM.
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Originally posted by DreamFighter View Postclealy he wrtoe level of opponents not level of Vitali.
But now you mention it Vitali is not one of Lewis best opponents.
Originally posted by DreamFighter View Posthe was prime, thats all there is to it.
Vitali was ahead at the point of the stoppage and if they fought again it may have been different.
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Originally posted by P4P_No1 View PostWhat makes you think Vitali is on Lewis level? That was the question bro. Who has Vitali beat that makes you think he's on Lewis' level?
Put it this way (and I hate doing it like this but)
Lewis TKO Shannon Briggs in 5 back in, what '98?
Yet he goes the full distance with Vitali a few years back? (Supposedly when Vitali is in his prime eh?)
Vitali after his return hadn't lost a round or many rounds until he fought Chisora, even if the opponents aren't that good it shows how dominant he is.
What I'm doing is comparing them at their best and I think at their best they around the same level.
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Originally posted by Someone88 View PostI meant other than Vitali who was his level and that's Holyfield. I should have explained further.
Well I said Vitali was closer to his prime than Lewis. If Lewis won every round up to the point that the fight was stopped, we wouldn't be discussing this.
Vitali was ahead at the point of the stoppage and if they fought again it may have been different.
Wlad is the closest thing it comes to a succesor to Lewis, but hes not half the man Lennox was.
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