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  • ИATAS
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    #11
    Chavez would get pummeled. His face would be unrecognizable. You thought he looked bad after Martinez, a Golovkin fight would be even worse.

    BTW, Chavez sucks. So he knocked down a 37 year old Martinez in the final seconds of the 12 round, a fatigued Martinez who's been floored plenty of times, big whoop. That doesn't make him a good fighter. Chavez has a great chin though, I'll give him that, which is why I believe the corner or the ref would stop the fight after taking so many shots to his destroyed face.

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      #12
      Originally posted by mathed
      Chavez is not too technical but he has underrated speed and big time power at 160. He should really be fighting at 168 or 175 but he might get stretched out fighting guys as big or bigger than he is. 3G could land shots on him but he himself is not too hard to hit and taking constant shots from a dude with Chavez' size and power is going to wear anyone down, I don't care how good our chin is. It would be a great action fight but I would also like to see Chavez-Macklin or Chavez-Pavlik, those would be great fights as well.
      underrated speed? andy lee was able to beat him to the punch in their fight and i'm pretty sure he isnt considered a fast fighter

      big time power? well no, he breaks opponents down by imposing his size and he's strong but i've never considered jr to be a power puncher. its the same reason jr wont go up a division or two, the only thing that will keep him in the fight against guys his size is his chin once he loses his physical advantages. he's not slick, his defense is horrible and he has no head movement

      if jr were to fight ggg he'd be easily timed with hard combinations and ggg would probably make him retire on his stool

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        #13
        Originally posted by mathed
        Chavez is not too technical but he has underrated speed and big time power at 160. He should really be fighting at 168 or 175 but he might get stretched out fighting guys as big or bigger than he is. 3G could land shots on him but he himself is not too hard to hit and taking constant shots from a dude with Chavez' size and power is going to wear anyone down, I don't care how good our chin is. It would be a great action fight but I would also like to see Chavez-Macklin or Chavez-Pavlik, those would be great fights as well.
        What? 165lb Zbik stood up to everything he offered no problem then went on to get busted up and stopped by light punching Sturm in his next fight. HE doesn't have real big one punch power at 160 and once he starts fighting at SMW guys are going to walk through his punches with little problem.

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          #14
          Originally posted by -PANDA-
          underrated speed? andy lee was able to beat him to the punch in their fight and i'm pretty sure he isnt considered a fast fighter

          big time power? well no, he breaks opponents down by imposing his size and he's strong but i've never considered jr to be a power puncher. its the same reason jr wont go up a division or two, the only thing that will keep him in the fight against guys his size is his chin once he loses his physical advantages. he's not slick, his defense is horrible and he has no head movement

          if jr were to fight ggg he'd be easily timed with hard combinations and ggg would probably make him retire on his stool
          Not sure how big you are but I'm closer to 160 and I can tell you that I'd rather not get decked in the face by a 180 plus pound professional boxer who is 5 inches taller than I am. Chavez has a sneaky left hook that is pretty quick, ask Andy Lee about it. Chavez hits hard, I'm not saying he is a one punch KO artist but at 160, his punches are not to be taken lightly...he can hurt you badly especially to the body.

          3G was taking flush shots from Proksa and in other film I have seen of him, he eats shots all the time but he has a very solid chin like Chavez. Chavez is a hyped punk but too many people give him too little credit. I personally thought Lee would beat him but Chavez had Lee out on his feet. 3G may win the fight but he is in no way a defensive genius and I'm not seeing where he is this unbeatable force as everyone is claiming he is. I think he is strong, has a good chin and places his shots well but I have seen nothing from him to suggest a future ATG.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ИATAS
            Chavez would get pummeled. His face would be unrecognizable. You thought he looked bad after Martinez, a Golovkin fight would be even worse.

            BTW, Chavez sucks. So he knocked down a 37 year old Martinez in the final seconds of the 12 round, a fatigued Martinez who's been floored plenty of times, big whoop. That doesn't make him a good fighter. Chavez has a great chin though, I'll give him that, which is why I believe the corner or the ref would stop the fight after taking so many shots to his destroyed face.
            How is GGG's chin? Excluding Martinez I'll give him a strong chance at beating anyone at 160. That includes GGG. His defense isn't much better then Chavez's. It would be interesting.

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              #16
              Originally posted by iseah100
              How is GGG's chin? Excluding Martinez I'll give him a strong chance at beating anyone at 160. That includes GGG. His defense isn't much better then Chavez's. It would be interesting.
              I've never seen him hurt.

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                #17
                Originally posted by ИATAS
                I've never seen him hurt.
                Could he stand up to punches from Chavez Jr for 10+ rounds? A Chavez Jr that weighs 175-180 on fight night?

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                  #18
                  Haven't seen much of GGG other than his first HBO appearance and the hype on here so id say he needs to make a name for himself this year, at least in America

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by iseah100
                    Could he stand up to punches from Chavez Jr for 10+ rounds? A Chavez Jr that weighs 175-180 on fight night?
                    Absolutely because what you would see is Chavez retreating after a few rounds from the power of GGG. While Chavez has a good chin, he's NEVER fought anyone with the power of Golovkin. This isn't Andy Lee or a dancing Martinez we're talking about. We're talking about a truly heavy handed legit MW.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by mathed
                      Not sure how big you are but I'm closer to 160 and I can tell you that I'd rather not get decked in the face by a 180 plus pound professional boxer who is 5 inches taller than I am. Chavez has a sneaky left hook that is pretty quick, ask Andy Lee about it. Chavez hits hard, I'm not saying he is a one punch KO artist but at 160, his punches are not to be taken lightly...he can hurt you badly especially to the body.

                      3G was taking flush shots from Proksa and in other film I have seen of him, he eats shots all the time but he has a very solid chin like Chavez. Chavez is a hyped punk but too many people give him too little credit. I personally thought Lee would beat him but Chavez had Lee out on his feet. 3G may win the fight but he is in no way a defensive genius and I'm not seeing where he is this unbeatable force as everyone is claiming he is. I think he is strong, has a good chin and places his shots well but I have seen nothing from him to suggest a future ATG.
                      not denying chavez is bigger, he's the biggest mw in the division...but he's definitely not the strongest. there was no indication in the lee fight that he's "quick" and i'm curious to hear what u saw in that fight to warrant saying this

                      i never said ggg is a defensive genius, in fact i agree with u that he gets hit but i've rarely seen him get hit flush and i've never ever seen him bothered when he did. ouma was able to hit ggg with his awkward style and proksa got a few nice shots in but then again so did lopez against canelo but he was just overpowered and pummeled into submission in a similar way ggg beat proksa down

                      ggg isnt an unbeatable force, but he is very hard to beat considering his power, accuracy and smart combination punching

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