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  • RightJabLikeZab
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    #21
    Fatton is over with. Get over it.

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      #22
      Originally posted by The Weebler II
      uhhm..yes. Boxing is a dirty sport and referees play a big part in that, as well the judges. You'd be very naive to believe otherwise, there are huge sums of money involved. In all three of those bouts the referee was corrupt, and there are many more besides (others have been mentioned in this thread).


      are you being serious right now? bcuz if you are i feel sorry for you.

      i didnt say there isnt corruption in boxing, i said the fights you used as examples werent corrupt. cortez didnt screw hatton in the mayweather fight, he enforced the rules. all those british referees that allowed hatton to cheat over in england were the ones being corrupt.

      Originally posted by raskat
      if you wanna see a Hatton fight in which the ref was corrupt, then watch Hatton vs Tszyu.
      If the ref in the Hatton-Mayweather fight would have let Hatton do all that dirty stuff he usually gets away with in his UK fights, then you would be perfectly fine with it, right?
      Originally posted by MR. LARRYX
      Let it go man,dont know if it is your love for Hatton or your hate for Floyd,but Floyd dominated Hatton,the fight was not close and wrestling is not apart of boxing,you need to come to terms with reality cause i remember that scorecard you had up for a year after the fight that had Hatton winning,that is crazy man...they could fight 100 times with 100 different refs and Hatton would get dominated 100 times.just stop with the nonsense..Hatton was never on Floyds level,never
      ^^^

      Originally posted by ИATAS
      You're allowed to hit in a clinch as long as one hand is free. See Berto vs Guerrero. That's how fights are supposed to go (although the ref made a couple bad calls in that fight). Refs like Joe Cortez ruin many fights because they don't know the rules!
      you are the one who doesnt know the rules. only if your oponent is the one holding are you allowed to work the free hand. if you are the one doing all the clinching you are not allowed to use the other hand to punch. that would be holding and hitting.

      obviously it often becomes a judgement call to figure out whos the one doing the holding, thats where the issue lies. if both guys are holding eachother most referees let both of them work the free hand though, which i think is good.

      but if just one guy is doing all the holding he isnt allowed to punch at the same time. which is exactly what hatton got away with his whole career until he fought floyd. jumping in, wrapping his arm around his oponent and holding him in place while he whacks him with the other hand, thats a foul.

      the british refs let him get away with it so much alot of english fans think its within the rules, i laugh my ass off every time some dumbass goes on about how hatton lost bcuz he wasnt allowed to cheat like hes the victim.

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        #23
        Originally posted by #1Assassin

        you are the one who doesnt know the rules.
        lol what? I know the rules man, you're allowed to punch while in a clinch.

        only if your oponent is the one holding are you allowed to work the free hand. if you are the one doing all the clinching you are not allowed to use the other hand to punch. that would be holding and hitting.

        obviously it often becomes a judgement call to figure out whos the one doing the holding, thats where the issue lies. if both guys are holding eachother most referees let both of them work the free hand though, which i think is good.
        Well that's the thing; it depends on who exactly is holding, how you're holding, etc. In general though you're supposed to be allowed to work while in a clinch.

        And I'm not even talking about Ricky Hatton vs Floyd, I'm speaking in general. People who use Cortez as an excuse for Hatton are in denial. Hatton could never beat Floyd. But Cortez was a horrible ref, no question about that and he broke up fighters insanely quick. He literally wouldn't allow for inside fighting. But again, I'm not talking about Floyd/Hatton, just generally speaking.

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          #24
          Originally posted by ИATAS
          lol what? I know the rules man, you're allowed to punch while in a clinch.



          Well that's the thing; it depends on who exactly is holding, how you're holding, etc. In general though you're supposed to be allowed to work while in a clinch.

          And I'm not even talking about Ricky Hatton vs Floyd, I'm speaking in general. People who use Cortez as an excuse for Hatton are in denial. Hatton could never beat Floyd. But Cortez was a horrible ref, no question about that and he broke up fighters insanely quick. He literally wouldn't allow for inside fighting. But again, I'm not talking about Floyd/Hatton, just generally speaking.
          thats all im saying. in most cases one fighter isnt doing all the clinching, both guys are usually holding eachother at which point they are both allowed to use the free hand.

          but if one fighter is doing ALL the holding he isnt allowed to punch too. you cant grab onto a guy and hold him in place and hit him with the other hand, thats all im saying. but if that isnt the case you are allowed to work the free hand, like i said in most cases thats what happens. inside fighting makes for a bit of grappling, hatton always took it way too far though and cortez wasnt having it.

          i agree cortez is a **** ref too acctually, the mayweather-hatton fight was one of the few fights he did fairly well in, not allowing hatton to cheat. like you say it wouldnt matter though, floyd is just in a completely diffrent class. he was even beating hatton on the inside when they were allowed to work there which makes these delusional hatton fans excuses even more absurd.

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            #25
            Originally posted by #1Assassin
            thats all im saying. in most cases one fighter isnt doing all the clinching, both guys are usually holding eachother at which point they are both allowed to use the free hand.
            IMO there aren't too many refs today that allow this to happen. Unfortunately more often than not the ref is closer to a Joe Cortez than say a Steve Smoger! I think Robert Guerrero vs Berto was an exception and wouldn't happen with 9 out of 10 refs.


            but if one fighter is doing ALL the holding he isnt allowed to punch too. you cant grab onto a guy and hold him in place and hit him with the other hand, thats all im saying.
            I agree with that

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              #26
              Ottke-Reid was actually a joke, I wouldn't even give Sven four rounds in that fight... And Cortez is one of the best referees over the last 30 years in boxing, and nothing Hatton inbred fanatics says would change that, If you think Cortez is a sheet ref then you are a moron period... Hatton himself use to get away with murder with his own referee/uncle over here in Micky Vann and Dave Parris..

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                #27
                Originally posted by #1Assassin

                hernandez gets dropped at which point the referee helps him up and then picks up the count at 2 even though hernandez been down like 5-6 seconds.


                7:05
                I've never seen that before. Incredible. Did anything happen to the referee?

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                  #28
                  Go to 5:20, warned for punching lol



                  Quick question, why couldn't Pacquaio do a double punch against Clottey?

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