Paul Williams Victor Ortiz Robert Guerrero.... Whats The Difference

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  • MJ223
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    #11
    Originally posted by Jack Napier
    Williams just beat Tony and was a serious threat to Floyd at the time
    Floyd had an easier, more lucrative, and legit Hatton fight in the works
    Ortiz beat weakass Berto for one of Floyd's beloved WBC belts
    Floyd wanted none of Pac, so Ortiz was the logical choice
    Pac's done even if Floyd did grow the balls to fight him now
    nothing wrong with Floyd fighting Guerrero, the fight is legit
    Originally posted by Jcsuper
    If Floyd fought Williams people would have never forgot him to avoid Hatton.

    Problem with Floyd is that he has to fight everybody to shut people's mouth. If there are 3 fighters , X Y and Z and he fights Y and Z, people will only say that he ducked X.

    Thing is the Hatton fight was waaaaaaaayyy more lucrative than a fight against Williams.
    I'm not saying he should have fought Williams over Hatton.... I get why he chose Hatton.... It was the bigger fight..... I'm saying he could have showed the slightest interest in a Williams fight.... And since he didn't its entirely plausible to say that he avoided him

    Williams fits his recent profile for choosing fights.... Coming off a fight of the year candidate the biggest win of his career and a titlist..... I just think its ironic that hes the only one Floyd didn't match up well with compared to Ortiz and Guerrero

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    • Jcsuper
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      #12
      how is going williams btw ? is he still paralysed ?

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      • daggum
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        #13
        how did williams deserve a floyd fight? he didn't even beat berto!

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        • deejd
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          #14
          Originally posted by Bushbaby
          Ahhh, yes!! The good ole Floyd (would have). Yes, Floyd would have beaten the Punisher, so he fought a weaker guy.

          He would have beaten Martinez, so he'll just fight ginger.

          He would have beaten Margarito, so he just fought Judah, yeah bro, I know.
          Maybe Mayweather could have just thrown lead hooks when he's already on the inside, right?

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          • deejd
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            #15
            Originally posted by MJ223
            I'm not saying he should have fought Williams over Hatton.... I get why he chose Hatton.... It was the bigger fight..... I'm saying he could have showed the slightest interest in a Williams fight.... And since he didn't its entirely plausible to say that he avoided him

            Williams fits his recent profile for choosing fights.... Coming off a fight of the year candidate the biggest win of his career and a titlist..... I just think its ironic that hes the only one Floyd didn't match up well with compared to Ortiz and Guerrero
            You're forgetting that all through 2006 and the first half of '07, Mayweather was ducking Hatton. At that time, PWill was just starting to make a name at welterweight. Even those of us who knew the potential PWill had then weren't clamoring for Mayweather-Williams after DLH.

            I understand what your point is here, MJ, I actually agree that PWill had a style that could have been troublesome to Mayweather, but to imply that Mayweather ducked Williams...

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            • GUEVARA
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              #16
              PWILL = floyd duck, ortiz = floyd cherry pick, guerrero =potential floyd cherry pick.

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              • daggum
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                #17
                Originally posted by deejd
                You're forgetting that all through 2006 and the first half of '07, Mayweather was ducking Hatton. At that time, PWill was just starting to make a name at welterweight. Even those of us who knew the potential PWill had then weren't clamoring for Mayweather-Williams after DLH.

                I understand what your point is here, MJ, I actually agree that PWill had a style that could have been troublesome to Mayweather, but to imply that Mayweather ducked Williams...
                not really. they weren't even in the same division and hatton got clobbered in his only welterweight fight. floyd, espn, and brian kenny liked to pretend floyd was avoiding guys like hatton and baldomir but that was all a farce in order to avoid the real threats in the division. classic deflection.

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                • deejd
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  not really. they weren't even in the same division and hatton got clobbered in his only welterweight fight. floyd, espn, and brian kenny liked to pretend floyd was avoiding guys like hatton and baldomir but that was all a farce in order to avoid the real threats in the division. classic deflection.
                  Not true at all, as a matter of fact, the legend of Mayweather ducking Hatton started after Hatton beat Tszyu. Even after Hatton's camp stated they weren't ready to fight Mayweather at '40, Mayweather was still coined as avoiding Hatton [and Cotto despite the same talk coming from their camp as well].

                  Again, nobody, not even the hardcore boxing fans were gung-ho for Mayweather-Williams after the DLH fight. If anything, the TR stans were the ones complaining after the Hatton fight.

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                  • boliodogs
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                    #19
                    He should have fought Williams when Williams was on a very good win streak and begging him for a fight. Williams would probably been a very hard fight for Floyd with his reach, southpaw style and over 100 punches a round workrate. No welterweight wanted to fight Williams at that time and Floyd did not want to fight him. We all know cash cow Floyd can get any fight he wants. I am glad he is fighting Guierrero because Guerrero earned that fight with two good wins in a row over rated welterweights. I like the Floyd-Guerrero fight but that doesn't change the fact that he should have fought Williams back then.

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                    • 4Corners
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                      #20
                      Because undefeated Top 10 P4P Ricky Hatton, someone Floyd supposedly ducking at the time, was available to fight.

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