Mike Tyson's Place in History

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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Mike Tyson's Place in History

    How does one place Mike Tyson in perspective as a fighter? There are fighters that most pundits agree on their greatness. Ali and Louis are unanimously considered great fighters, the only debate we have is who was greater? Then there are fighters where mythology often takes precedence since their days have long past and there are very little films to observe. Jack Dempsey and Jack Johnson are two fighters where myth and written accounts account for our perspective since most, if not, all of the eyewitnesses are dead.

    Most boxing fans in the early 20th century read about the exploits of these fighters or in the case of Dempsey, listened on the radio. Imagination plays a role in their perception and those perceptions have been handed down to us in its original form. The story of Jack Dempsey and Jack Johnson read more like ancient classics than a sports story.

    Then there are fighters who leave us unsure and hoping that history will unravel some of the questions. Mike Tyson is one of those fighters and Roy Jones, Jr. is another. Both men leave as many questions as answers, when discussing their overall greatness. For Mike Tyson, his early career was a history of destruction as he left nothing standing in his path. [details]
  • DolPhan79
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    in the top 25...definetely not the top 10

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    • masterdirector
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      whatever, tyson is definitely in the top 5. He's my #1 all-time. everyone knows deep down that the prime focused D'Mato-Rooney Tyson was unbeatable.

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      • Dirt E Gomez
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        Originally posted by masterdirector
        whatever, tyson is definitely in the top 5. He's my #1 all-time. everyone knows deep down that the prime focused D'Mato-Rooney Tyson was unbeatable.
        Deep down inside I might agree with you. My problem is I can never justify saying somebody is the greatest of all time because they couldn't be beaten for a 3 year period, then immediately fell off.

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        • DiegoFuego
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          Tyson shouldn't be in any self-respecting boxing fan's top 10 heavyweights of all time. Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Lewis, Holyfield, Louis, Marciano, Holmes... Tyson is nowhere near any of these guys in terms of success and could never be.

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          • Truth
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            Originally posted by DiegoFuego
            Tyson shouldn't be in any self-respecting boxing fan's top 10 heavyweights of all time. Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Lewis, Holyfield, Louis, Marciano, Holmes... Tyson is nowhere near any of these guys in terms of success and could never be.
            I think top 10 is wrong as well, and I am a huge fan. I do think he is top 50 though.

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            • paul750
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              Greatness is not measured by how good people think he was in his prime, or how good he could of been etc, it's measured by the fighters he has beaten. Mike Tyson may well have been the greatest prodigy in boxing history, but regardless of that, his record shows loses to Douglas, two loses to Holyfield and a loss to Lewis, his best win at his prime on paper is an inactive and aged Larry Holmes.

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              • RAESAAD
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                Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                Tyson shouldn't be in any self-respecting boxing fan's top 10 heavyweights of all time. Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Lewis, Holyfield, Louis, Marciano, Holmes... Tyson is nowhere near any of these guys in terms of success and could never be.
                Yeah I agree......I would go as far to say he should be top 25 due to how unbeatable he seemed early on and the fact that he always has and will have a punchers chance if he ever fights again.I am not a huge fan of his tho personally.

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                • Truth
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                  Originally posted by raesaad
                  Yeah I agree......I would go as far to say he should be top 25 due to how unbeatable he seemed early on and the fact that he always has and will have a punchers chance if he ever fights again.I am not a huge fan of his tho personally.
                  I don't think any should completley bash Tyson. Its one thing not to like him, but give him credit he has been phenom these last 20 years. He got the public attention like Ali did. I like how you are giving him some respect, Raesaad.

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                  • RAESAAD
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                    Originally posted by IRON TRUTH
                    I don't think any should completley bash Tyson. Its one thing not to like him, but give him credit he has been phenom these last 20 years. He got the public attention like Ali did. I like how you are giving him some respect, Raesaad.
                    I gotta give it where its due I am like you I try to speak the Truth.....LOL

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