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  • #11
    Originally posted by Tom Cruise View Post
    The best thing i heard Hunter suggest for Khan is to stay in training between fights, not the physical stuff because hes obviously always in great shape, but it will give him so much more time to drill tactics and to get the basics down.

    Khan does this then we could see a much improved fighter.

    Otherwise i think its going to be difficult to get Khan out of the groove he is used to with only 8 weeks training at a time.
    I guess Khan has to work overtime to eliminate years of bad technique and replace them with good technique. Will he be in Oakland between fights or the UK?

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    • #12
      If this young man is going to be truely honest about his faults and wants to improve than he can! If he doesn't then it won't happen! I do believe he needs to box much more than fight! He seemes to have good speed all the way around someone taught him combinations and sequences! So the basics are there I think his game plan needs to be defined and then tweaked as he knows who he's fighting. This type of boxer reminds me of Chad Dawson, both are straight up boxers who benefited from foot and hand speed and all of a sudden think their Sugar Ray Robinson and can knock people out!!
      What I see are two young men who are capable of winning alot of rounds with talent and intelligence. I think they both punch well enough to gain respect but must be mentally tuffer and they need to be on the same page with their trainer and have someone in their corner that can relate what needs to be done with their opponents and how THEY can do it.
      Its pretty tuff to develop trust with someone you know for a few months but if you have respect for them it could happen.

      We'll see over the next few bouts and hopefully the team could come together with positive results! Ray Corso

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Prince Mongo View Post
        I think Hunter is a great coach and the job he has done with Andre Ward is fantastic but he molded him from when he was a kid.I have no doubt if Hunter was Khan's coach from when he was a youngster Khan would be a far superior fighter. But Hunter is not teaching a kid from scratch he is teaching someone with grooved in habits that are not going to be easy to change.
        Amir Khan is a flawed fighter with poor defense,no inside fighting skills and low level ring IQ. But he is FAST. The theory is if his deficiencies can be rectified he will be a great fighter. But when you have been fighting as long as Khan has with heavily ingrained habits making changes where they become automatic is a big ask especially where everything is thrown at warp speed.It is one thing learning new correct movements slowly but Khan is so fast he has to be on pure automatic and making real changes that will show and hold up under pressure is asking a lot.
        Is it all to late for Khan to REALLY change. How do you see the partnership working out over time?
        The kid is 25, he has PLENTY of time for improvement. You act like he's some past prime veteran trying to completely change his style to stay in the game. The kid is 25, lots of people have not even turned pro yet at 25.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by raf727 View Post
          The kid is 25, he has PLENTY of time for improvement. You act like he's some past prime veteran trying to completely change his style to stay in the game. The kid is 25, lots of people have not even turned pro yet at 25.
          Khan has been fighting the same way since he was a kid. He may be 25 years old but he has a fighting style that he has been using for well over a decade. It is not his age is the problem but the years and years of grooving through repition where he has grooved ingrained habits. It is easier for someone who has not got habits to be trained from scratch properly than trying to correct heavily ingrained and grooved bad habits.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
            I guess Khan has to work overtime to eliminate years of bad technique and replace them with good technique. Will he be in Oakland between fights or the UK?
            Im not sure, I think Hunter said Ward trains technique 3 times a week when he is out of camp, and that is what he wants Khan to do. Obviously Khan has a lot of sponsorship distractions, along with a wedding coming up, but i hope he can do some of what Hunter is asking.

            As another poster said Khan has been fighting pretty much the same way for a decade, its going to take many 8 week camps to sort out the stuff he does wrong, so if hes truly dedicated to becoming a better fighter i reckon he'll do what Hunter says. Otherwise we are going to get the old **** next time he steps up.
            Last edited by Tom Cruise; 12-21-2012, 09:42 PM.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
              If this young man is going to be truely honest about his faults and wants to improve than he can! If he doesn't then it won't happen! I do believe he needs to box much more than fight! He seemes to have good speed all the way around someone taught him combinations and sequences! So the basics are there I think his game plan needs to be defined and then tweaked as he knows who he's fighting. This type of boxer reminds me of Chad Dawson, both are straight up boxers who benefited from foot and hand speed and all of a sudden think their Sugar Ray Robinson and can knock people out!!
              What I see are two young men who are capable of winning alot of rounds with talent and intelligence. I think they both punch well enough to gain respect but must be mentally tuffer and they need to be on the same page with their trainer and have someone in their corner that can relate what needs to be done with their opponents and how THEY can do it.
              Its pretty tuff to develop trust with someone you know for a few months but if you have respect for them it could happen.

              We'll see over the next few bouts and hopefully the team could come together with positive results! Ray Corso
              not to suck d1ck too much but how are you red dude?

              Swear your posts are always on point?

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              • #17
                A lot of time has past and we are now in a better position to make an opinion. has Khan improved beyond recognition ? Is he a lot better now under Hunter? Does anyone know if he is working full time with hunter or is he doing his own thing and sees hunter from time to time?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by raf727 View Post
                  The kid is 25, he has PLENTY of time for improvement. You act like he's some past prime veteran trying to completely change his style to stay in the game. The kid is 25, lots of people have not even turned pro yet at 25.
                  Khan also said he will retire at 28

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Prince Mongo View Post
                    A lot of time has past and we are now in a better position to make an opinion. has Khan improved beyond recognition ? Is he a lot better now under Hunter? Does anyone know if he is working full time with hunter or is he doing his own thing and sees hunter from time to time?
                    I re-watched the Diaz fight a couple of weeks ago, Khan has changed his style a lot. He's moving much more now, and getting out of the pocket faster. However, it's doesn't feel like his natural gameplan and he's still prone to getting caught.

                    Some people say he was better under Roach but he had to change his style or he was going to get KO'd again.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
                      I re-watched the Diaz fight a couple of weeks ago, Khan has changed his style a lot. He's moving much more now, and getting out of the pocket faster. However, it's doesn't feel like his natural gameplan and he's still prone to getting caught.

                      Some people say he was better under Roach but he had to change his style or he was going to get KO'd again.
                      To be honest mate i don't think it was necessary for him to change his style, just not try and get as many punches off when his opponent is dangerous and leave himself to get countered. It was always Khan's work rate that got him where he is, but i feel hunter has slowed him down a fair bit.

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