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  • #71
    Originally posted by Solitario View Post
    This is really no surprise considering the HBO crew has always had a pro Pac bias. Remember when he was beaten by Morales and Merchant tried to pin the loss on the gloves they BOTH wore? It should come as no surprise that they're looking for any excuse to run with in this instance as well.

    Earlier tonight, they were heaping praise on Donaire for undergoing random testing (even though he's working with Conte), but where was their praise for Mayweather when he insisted on testing for himself and his opponents, and where was their criticism for Pacquiao for refusing, which was the main reason negotiations between the two sides fell through.

    Also, Berto isn't the only athlete that tested positive while working with Conte. Baseball player Marlon Byrd also tested positive earlier this year. Can you imagine the **** storm that would have resulted if two athletes tested positive while working with Heredia this year? Yet, why doesn't the HBO crew view all the boxers associated with Conte under the same cloud of suspicion? It's pretty obvious they have an agenda.

    Great post. Green K sent.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Solitario View Post
      This is really no surprise considering the HBO crew has always had a pro Pac bias. Remember when he was beaten by Morales and Merchant tried to pin the loss on the gloves they BOTH wore? It should come as no surprise that they're looking for any excuse to run with in this instance as well.

      Earlier tonight, they were heaping praise on Donaire for undergoing random testing (even though he's working with Conte), but where was their praise for Mayweather when he insisted on testing for himself and his opponents, and where was their criticism for Pacquiao for refusing, which was the main reason negotiations between the two sides fell through.

      Also, Berto isn't the only athlete that tested positive while working with Conte. Baseball player Marlon Byrd also tested positive earlier this year. Can you imagine the **** storm that would have resulted if two athletes tested positive while working with Heredia this year? Yet, why doesn't the HBO crew view all the boxers associated with Conte under the same cloud of suspicion? It's pretty obvious they have an agenda.
      GOAT post...

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      • #73
        Here's the irony of it all if Marquez did juice which I don't think he did like I don't think Manny ever juiced. If Manny would have said he would test the first time around this would have never happened cause Marquez's camp knew(if they are cheating) that Arum or Manny wouldn't ever ask for any additonal tests because there position on it in the past would look hypocritical.

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        • #74
          Well, it was stupid of Marquez to hire Heredia because everyone (who's not biased) will think he's suspicious.

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          • #75
            Donaire is literally the only guy being properly tested in not just boxing but sports in general. He deserves all the praise given even if he does work with Conte.

            However, I really disliked how the entire HBO crew tried to taint Marquez's victory, they barely gave him any credit. All this nonsense about the integrity of sport...was Lampley unaware of how soft the testing methods are in general? well he had no problem calling the fight live and selling it on PPV knowing that neither fighter could be caught with the commission tests. Now he wants to go on the crusade post fight? Hypocrite.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Solitario View Post
              This is really no surprise considering the HBO crew has always had a pro Pac bias. Remember when he was beaten by Morales and Merchant tried to pin the loss on the gloves they BOTH wore? It should come as no surprise that they're looking for any excuse to run with in this instance as well.

              Earlier tonight, they were heaping praise on Donaire for undergoing random testing (even though he's working with Conte), but where was their praise for Mayweather when he insisted on testing for himself and his opponents, and where was their criticism for Pacquiao for refusing, which was the main reason negotiations between the two sides fell through.

              Also, Berto isn't the only athlete that tested positive while working with Conte. Baseball player Marlon Byrd also tested positive earlier this year. Can you imagine the **** storm that would have resulted if two athletes tested positive while working with Heredia this year? Yet, why doesn't the HBO crew view all the boxers associated with Conte under the same cloud of suspicion? It's pretty obvious they have an agenda.
              one of the REALEST posts ever!!!...well said!!

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              • #77
                Originally posted by dc3383 View Post
                Here's the irony of it all if Marquez did juice which I don't think he did like I don't think Manny ever juiced. If Manny would have said he would test the first time around this would have never happened cause Marquez's camp knew(if they are cheating) that Arum or Manny wouldn't ever ask for any additonal tests because there position on it in the past would look hypocritical.
                No amount of test can catch Heredia"s 20 undetectable PEDs not even the Olympic test. So what is the point of this testing? I dont think Marquez is on PED when he beat Pacquaio. It was the well time punch while Pac jumping in and didnt see the punch that koed Pac. It was Marquez fault why he hired an admitted dealer of undetectable PEDs.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by BafanaBafana View Post
                  Well, it was stupid of Marquez to hire Heredia because everyone (who's not biased) will think he's suspicious.
                  Everyone who's not biased would not try to spin stories of PEDs to cast a cloud of suspicion over one fighter (JMM) while failing to detail the suspicious excuses provided by his opponent (Pac) regarding the same subject matter, namely a stern refusal from Arum and Team Pacquiao to submit to OST.
                  Last edited by nysoxfan84; 12-16-2012, 03:26 AM.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by nysoxfan84 View Post
                    Everyone who's not biased would not try to spin stories of PEDs to cast a cloud of suspicion over one fighter (JMM) while failing to detail the suspicious excuses provided by his opponent (Pac) regarding the same subject matter, namely a stern refusal from Arum and Team Pacquiao to submit to OST.
                    Just because Pacquiao may have used or continues to use PEDs does not mean Juan Manuel Marquez isn't using PEDs. And like I said Marquez is supicious; you can't say it's unreasonable to suspect he might be using some kind of PED given Heredia's track record.


                    PS: I'm not a fan of either guy.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by nysoxfan84 View Post
                      Everyone who's not biased would not try to spin stories of PEDs to cast a cloud of suspicion over one fighter (JMM) while failing to detail the suspicious excuses provided by his opponent (Pac), namely a stern refusal to submit to OST.
                      Pac has the right to reject Floyd tailored test handled by his own/paid testing agency (USADA). Have you heard the rumors Floyd tested positive on 3 occasion but covered up by USADA/GBP?

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