Alvarez and Ortiz About the Same Size?

[Earl-Hickey]

It doesn't really matter, Alvarez is a million times better than ortiz

[kiaba360]

It doesn't really matter, Alvarez is a million times better than ortiz

A million times more unproven than Ortiz.

[-Kev-]

They're the same height and come in at the same weight on fight night, but I think Canelo is actually bigger if that makes any sense.


For example, in November 2006 against Morales, Pacquiao weighed 129 at the weigh in and 144lbs on fight night[15lbs added].

Same year, in the same month[November], Floyd fought Baldomir at 147. Floyd weighed in 149lbs on fight night[2lbs added].

So Pacquiao and Floyd were supposedly 4 weight classes apart, yet only 5lbs apart on fight night. And let's face it, 5lbs apart on fight night is not that big of an advantage. So can you really say that in 2006, Floyd and Manny were the same size?

[Earl-Hickey]

A million times more unproven than Ortiz.

It doesn't matter.

Ortiz proved himself to be a B level fighter with a serious touch of the "judahs"

Alvarez is solid, he'll do mayweather, and I'll be glad when he does and we can brush this **** era under the carpet

[puga]

This was the first time in a long time that they showed Floyd's fight night weight. Ortiz was 164, Floyd was around 150.

so why are you not sure about floyds weight?..got any link?

[Biolink]

so why are you not sure about floyds weight?..got any link?

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...o-victor-ortiz

He also faced a significant weight disadvantage.

Ortiz, who was making the first defense of the belt he won via decision in a fight of the year candidate with Andre Berto in April, stepped onto the unofficial HBO fight-night scale at 164 pounds. Mayweather was 150 pounds.

https://www.google.com/search?q=mayweather+vs+ortiz+unofficial+weigh+in&rlz=1C1LENN_enUS498US498&oq=mayweather+vs+ortiz+unofficial+weigh+in&aqs=chrome.0.57j0j60l3j0.8522&sugexp=chrome,mod=2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&tbo=d&rlz=1C1LENN_enUS498US498&sclient=psy-ab&q=mayweather+vs+ortiz+unofficial+weigh+in&oq=mayweather+vs+ortiz+unofficial+&gs_l=serp.1.0.35i39.15440.20076.0.21574.4.4.0.0.0.1.173.408.3j1.4.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.a7Cf3CmRa4E&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355325884,d.b2I&fp=465bcc43df61601f&bpcl=39967673&biw=1241&bih=606

Mayweather is not that big. Nor has he ever been known as one of those fighters who bloats up like 8 pounds after the official weigh in.

[puga]

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...o-victor-ortiz

https://www.google.com/search?q=mayweather+vs+ortiz+unofficial+weigh+in&rlz=1C1LENN_enUS498US498&oq=mayweather+vs+ortiz+unofficial+weigh+in&aqs=chrome.0.57j0j60l3j0.8522&sugexp=chrome,mod=2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&tbo=d&rlz=1C1LENN_enUS498US498&sclient=psy-ab&q=mayweather+vs+ortiz+unofficial+weigh+in&oq=mayweather+vs+ortiz+unofficial+&gs_l=serp.1.0.35i39.15440.20076.0.21574.4.4.0.0.0.1.173.408.3j1.4.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.a7Cf3CmRa4E&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355325884,d.b2I&fp=465bcc43df61601f&bpcl=39967673&biw=1241&bih=606

Mayweather is not that big. Nor has he ever been known as one of those fighters who bloats up like 8 pounds after the official weigh in.

cool , thanks!

[boliodogs]

Canelo has the benefit of not having to drain himself like Ortiz does, but I think they enter the ring at about the same weight.

That's right. Ortiz was 164 for Floyd and I saw no extra weight on him. He looked lean. Canelo weights about 165 when he comes in the ring and he looks trim but not the least bit drained. Canelo is perfect for 154 but Ortiz must have to lose lots of water weight to make 147.

[BafanaBafana]

Ortiz was 164 when he fought Floyd

Alvarez was 164 on fight night for his last fight

Had they fought I think people would have been surprised about the size.

Actually, Alvarez weighed 167 pounds on fight night. The difference here is the water weight, Alvarez has a stronger more muscular frame in general.

[Prime 407]

Weight doesn't win fights, Canelo is too flat footed to compete with Floyd. Guerrero would have been a tougher fight style wise for Floyd believe it or not.