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Marquez Practicing the Lucky Punch
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Originally posted by edgarg View PostWell,Iwent to the trouble of watching it-something I don't ordinarily do. You are quite wrong. The punch which put the sparring partner down was a normal straight right, thrown at the opponent when straight in front of him, as were all the other rights. This is nothing like the punch which put Pacquiao down.
THAT punch was a desperate, wildly thrown punch, and I advise you to look at it again, especially the slo-mo. Marquez's head was down actually past Pacquiao's right-side waist, when the punch landed. He may have wanted it to connect, but he had no idea where it was really going. Pacquiao didn't see it coming and that was to be expected.
I distinctly recall a similar punch I threw many, many years ago. We were preparing for the Universities Chamionships, and a former member, who by now was a doctor, and around 40 years old used to come every year to spar and get us into shape. He had been a phenomenon in his day, won the Uiversities Junior, Senior, and Irish National Junior and Senior Championships in the same year. He was a welterweight then but sparring with us he was likely a middle. I was a featherweight with a heavy left hand punch not so much a right hand. He was all over me around the ring and in sheer desperation from very close in, I threw a right hand exactly like Marquez's. My head was down around his waist and I had no idea where it would land. Ivan said after the round to us all, that he thought his jaw was broken (it wasn't) but it had to have been the heaviest punch I ever threw.
That sort of punch is a lucky punch.
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Originally posted by edgarg View PostWell,Iwent to the trouble of watching it-something I don't ordinarily do. You are quite wrong. The punch which put the sparring partner down was a normal straight right, thrown at the opponent when straight in front of him, as were all the other rights. This is nothing like the punch which put Pacquiao down.
THAT punch was a desperate, wildly thrown punch, and I advise you to look at it again, especially the slo-mo. Marquez's head was down actually past Pacquiao's right-side waist, when the punch landed. He may have wanted it to connect, but he had no idea where it was really going. Pacquiao didn't see it coming and that was to be expected.
I distinctly recall a similar punch I threw many, many years ago. We were preparing for the Universities Chamionships, and a former member, who by now was a doctor, and around 40 years old used to come every year to spar and get us into shape. He had been a phenomenon in his day, won the Uiversities Junior, Senior, and Irish National Junior and Senior Championships in the same year. He was a welterweight then but sparring with us he was likely a middle. I was a featherweight with a heavy left hand punch not so much a right hand. He was all over me around the ring and in sheer desperation from very close in, I threw a right hand exactly like Marquez's. My head was down around his waist and I had no idea where it would land. Ivan said after the round to us all, that he thought his jaw was broken (it wasn't) but it had to have been the heaviest punch I ever threw.
That sort of punch is a lucky punch.Last edited by _original_; 12-13-2012, 08:05 AM.
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Originally posted by jayblack View PostMarquez had just slipped a Pac jab and Marquez had his head right around Pacs shoulder when he threw the punch. It was pretty much exactly like the one he landed on the sparring partner. Where you may have landed a great lucky punch Marquez punch was nothing like the one you described.
the fact is if you rewatch the fight JMM was'nt even looking to engage he was looking for body first and then go upstairs thats why he looked like he was getting dominated because he was waiting for an opportunity to unload.
man I dont know how to quote multiple people.......sorry jayblack i agree with u...
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