Would Ariza's strength and conditioning made a difference on Pacquiao in the fight

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  • Espada
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    Would Ariza's strength and conditioning made a difference on Pacquiao in the fight

    not taking anything away from Marquez but I think Heredia's program really benefited him well.
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    Yes, somehow Pac could take those power punches
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    No, with Marquez's familiarlity on Pac plus being technically flawless he really had his number
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    Originally posted by Espada
    not taking anything away from Marquez but I think Heredia's program really benefited him well.
    Yes the Arizza Protein Shake help Manny take shots from big puncher's like Cotto, Margarito, Clottey and Delahoya and they never fazed him. So Roger will probably say he's off A-side Meth

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    • rao007
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      I would like to say yes...but pacquiao multiplied the power when he ran into the shot.....it was just too much unneeded aggression..plain and simple....but i want a remathc.

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      • ussy
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        Originally posted by rao007
        I would like to say yes...but pacquiao multiplied the power when he ran into the shot.....it was just too much unneeded aggression..plain and simple....but i want a remathc.
        Yeah he ran in to it, Arizas stuff wouldn't have made a difference, Manny just got too aggresive.

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        • hayZ
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          I don't think so, he was just a lot more aggressive in the fight which leaves openings. Honestly he looked the best he had in years. His speed, combos and accuracy were on point and he was winning the fight...I felt he was starting to takeover more and more with Marquez breathing heavy (that much more muscle does that to ya) and his face was marked up pretty bad.

          Honestly, Pac may not be AS GOOD as he was during 2008/2009 but he still up there with the best in his weight division. He probably hasn't got that that level of drive but he's still a beast. Marquez caught him clean, caught him coming in and thats all she wrote.

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          • MexicanMauler
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            You can't strength train your chin.

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            • Juof
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              I was suprised at the weigh in when pacquiao didnt look ripped as hell like he usually does, i wanted marquez to win but had a feeling pacquiao would do him this time, thats the second time i've underestimated marquez. Marquez is the real deal end of story he has pacquiaos number.

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              • DD09
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                Originally posted by hayZ
                I don't think so, he was just a lot more aggressive in the fight which leaves openings. Honestly he looked the best he had in years. His speed, combos and accuracy were on point and he was winning the fight...I felt he was starting to takeover more and more with Marquez breathing heavy (that much more muscle does that to ya) and his face was marked up pretty bad.

                Honestly, Pac may not be AS GOOD as he was during 2008/2009 but he still up there with the best in his weight division. He probably hasn't got that that level of drive but he's still a beast. Marquez caught him clean, caught him coming in and thats all she wrote.
                My thoughts exactly. The only difference I could see with Ariza's training or whatever, is that The Pacquiao of two years ago would've probably knocked down Marquez with some of those shots.

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                  No, it wouldn't have been a difference. Pacquiao probably wouldnt't have been knocked down in the 3rd with proper conditioning but the 6th round? Even super middleweights would go down with a punch like that.

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                  • BigStereotype
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                    Not unless he could have warned him not to headbutt a puncher's best shot.

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