Ok lets see your new p4p lists

[D-MiZe]

explain how you have manny over martinez and donaire,i explained my reason already

P4P he's achieved a lot more.

Donaire's simmering away, he'll need a couple more big wins before I put him over Pac. Martinez started off with much promise but is starting to cool down, his recent string of opponents is hindering his progression in my list.

If you were to have Donaire and Martinez over Pac, that's cool. I just can't see how anyone can completely exclude him.

[crold1]

1-Ward
2-Floyd
3-Marquez
4-Martinez
5-Donaire
6-Wlad
7-Bradley
8-Vitali
9-Froch
10-Mares

I'm waiting to see where Donaire shakes out next week to update the site ratings, but my top five would match yours now. Wouldn't have Vitali or Bradley on; probably Pac around nine. Might slip Viloria in there somewhere. he's on a FANTASTIC run.

[D-MiZe]

It's clear that you don't have the willpower to suspend bias; starting with the Mosley fight a last year.

What?

[deejd]

he didnt lose to bradley

With that logic, he surely lost the third fight to Marquez.

[ATG Fighter]

@ taking Pac out of the top 10 but having the likes of Bradley, Froch, Mares

[deejd]

What?

His last four bouts have progressively gotten worse. If you can't see that, it's obvious that you have a bias... and that's okay, but don't get sensitive when others don't have the guy in their top 10.

[Larry the boss]

How do people have Ward number #1 when chad Dawson had to move down in weight to fight him?

Dawson did not have to move down...he chose to..he called out Ward after the Hopkins fight and said he would go down to 168 for the fight,not to mention he wanted to move down and fight in the super 6 as well...why do i have Ward at #1?he has had the most impressive string of victories imo

[deejd]

How do people have Ward number #1 when chad Dawson had to move down in weight to fight him?

That's a great question.

Dawson did not have to move down...he chose to..he called out Ward after the Hopkins fight and said he would go down to 168 for the fight,not to mention he wanted to move down and fight in the super 6 as well...why do i have Ward at #1?he has had the most impressive string of victories imo

That's an even greater response.

[Larry the boss]

P4P he's achieved a lot more.

Donaire's simmering away, he'll need a couple more big wins before I put him over Pac. Martinez started off with much promise but is starting to cool down, his recent string of opponents is hindering his progression in my list.

If you were to have Donaire and Martinez over Pac, that's cool. I just can't see how anyone can completely exclude him.

Donaire simmering away?he won 2 world titles and a ring belt this year

:lol: @ taking Pac out of the top 10 but having the likes of Bradley, Froch, Mares

Bradley beat Manny,Froch beat Bute and Mares defended his title.Manny is 0-2 this year was just layed out cold and some think he lost to Jmm last year,sorry man he hasnt done anything to remain top 10 p4p imo

[D-MiZe]

His last four bouts have progressively gotten worse. If you can't see that, it's obvious that you have a bias... and that's okay, but don't get sensitive when others don't have the guy in their top 10.

What are you on about?

Why are half the people on this forum unable to converse properly. When did I say anything about his last four bouts?

Sensitive?



You either have Pac in your list or not, if not. I want an explanation as to why a guy who was seen as one of the 2 best fighters this era, suddenly fall off the list completely. Especially to a guy like Marquez, who held his position despite multiple losses.