NYTimes openly suspicious of PED use by JMM

[danceswithfire]

it's not just new york times, people ...read around

[Cleto_Reyes]

Stop trying to discredit the win guys. he still weighed less than pac at fight night. he was just more cut. if he was on ped it would be more mass makes you gain weight because of the mass...

[SpeedKillz]

jesus christ man. how long will this go on for? Im thinkin til 2014 at least...

[Zano-24]

When has Marquez ever landed a punch that perfect on Manny? That is why Manny was KO'D like that. It was the perfect storm. Manny with his hands down and heading towards Marquez. Marquez loading up with a counter right hand with massive volume and Manny never seen the punch because of the tight angle Marquez threw the punch at. People are acting like Marquez hit him with a normal straight right hand he always lands on Manny and KO'D him.

[VaginaPuncher]

of course i don't have 100% proof or am 100% confident that marquez took peds...but the fact that marquez all of sudden now is not only still ripped at 39 and is more stronger than ever (punching power and being able to take a punch) and this is all coming at a time that he hired a known ped dealer and chemist SHOULD raise some red flags...i wish marquez didn't hire heredia in the first place because now i can't help but think in the back of my mind that marquez may have cheated. and these other 9 world champions that heredia is helping could possibly be cheating as well....

You must also think that Sergio Martinez is also on something since he is older than jmm and has an even more incredible physique and has had a perfectly timed knockout shot? those Argentine PEDS must be even better than the Mexican ones, huh?
Did you known that all those 9 champions of herieda will be undergoing random drug screening under Herieda's permission? check out the article where he talks about legal actions against ROach for defamation.

[BrokenHat]

Proof? The proof is that hes 39 years old and as the NYtimes points out, he looks like a body builder not a boxer, and this transformation happened at close to 40 with the help of a notorious drugs cheat. Most people with brains call that proof enough, people like the writers at THE NEW YORK TIMES.

And proof beyond that? This isn't a court of a law you morons. But I guess the NYtimes are just crazy Pac fans.

Guess what? The most widely read newspaper on the planet is saying JMM probably used PEDS against PAC, this is interesting. Thats what this thread is about. Not that difficult to understand.

But I guess you uneducated losers are smarter than the writers at the NY Times, right?

[Bermuda]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing-...-200532499.htm

While Conte said it is theoretically possible that Marquez was able to transform his body the way he has at such an advanced age for an athlete, he remains suspicious of it.

He pointed out the massive amount of weight that Marquez was shown squatting during HBO's "24/7: Pacquiao-Marquez." Several boxing trainers and conditioning coaches have told Yahoo! Sports that it is highly unusual for boxers to squat such heavy weight.

"That makes your entire body strong, not just your legs," Conte said of the squats Marquez has been doing. "If you want to stimulate speed, power and strength, you do it using heavy weight and exploding from under that weight with enough on your shoulders in the squat rack.

"But how many boxers do you know who are in the weight room squatting huge poundage? You don't see that. That in and of itself would make you stiff and sore and unable to walk for two or three days unless you are using testosterone or other steroids to accelerate the healing, where instead of it taking three days to recover from that type of workout, you'd recover in one day."

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WHETHER HE THINKS THE SIZE THAT MARQUEZ PUT ON, IN THE QUICK TIME PERIOD THAT HE DID SO, AT HIS AGE, SHOULD BE QUESTIONED?

Garcia: “Yes, definitely. Yes, yes and yes. You hit on some key points. It’s a natural thing aging. When you age, one of the main factors is a difference in [the] hormone levels your body does produce, [with] that being directly related to your muscular skeletal system and everything else. It has to do with recovery… a lot of that is hormone based. So yes, of course, later on in life, to get that much better, definitely has to raise questions.

39 year old boxer squatting huge amount of weights?

[SpeedKillz]

When has Marquez ever landed a punch that perfect on Manny? That is why Manny was KO'D like that. It was the perfect storm. Manny with his hands down and heading towards Marquez. Marquez loading up with a counter right hand with massive volume and Manny never seen the punch because of the tight angle Marquez threw the punch at. People are acting like Marquez hit him with a normal straight right hand he always lands on Manny and KO'D him.

^^this

people makin it out to be like its impossible for JMM to KO someone like manny with a punch like that. that was as perfect a punch as could be. all elements of that punch was just more than perfect. perfect timing, perfect position, perfect that manny was lunging, and perfect that manny was off balance. he got clocked and he went to sleep. this is boxing

not everyone who KOs someone in spectacular fashion is on PEDs. maybe JMM was, maybe pac was, but that punch woulda KOd pac in any one of their fights, PEDs or not, now give it a rest peeps, it wont take the victory away from JMM...

[Frank Ducketts]

Older guys plant more. Pacquiao got more flat footed so he isn't feinting Marquez like he used to. Once Pacquiao slowed down, he was dead meat for Marquez.

[Oxn]

You must also think that Sergio Martinez is also on something since he is older than jmm and has an even more incredible physique and has had a perfectly timed knockout shot? those Argentine PEDS must be even better than the Mexican ones, huh?
Did you known that all those 9 champions of herieda will be undergoing random drug screening under Herieda's permission? check out the article where he talks about legal actions against ROach for defamation.

Not to discredit your point, but
Pretty sure sergio is not older than jmm.