What people aren't paying attention to

[Phenom]

Manny been KTFO before wouldn't say he has an ATG chin just that his chin wasn't tested since he got rocked at featherweight

[-Kev-]

Both of those were accumulation stoppages

So because Martinez knocked Williams out cold, but the rest of his fighters on accumulation, then....what? His one punch power came out of nowhere for one fight and left?

How about Pacquia-Hatton? When was Pacquiao ever known for knocking guys out cold like that?

[Dudley]

Marquez is a great counterpuncher with decent power and he landed probably the best timed shot of his career. That would have knocked anybody out.

That's essentially it. The pure science behind a counter puncher is to use the opponents force against them. You have Manny jumping in you have Marquez throwing a power shot down the pipe therefore The connecting is amplified when the two forces collide. KO! Manny walked right into that one, er jumped!

Roy Jones called it out too, he had the best commentary of all of them.

[DARKSEID]

I visited Pacquiao in training camp a while before the fight and my first reaction was wow.. he got old fast.

Pacquiao has been in too many wars. It was going to catch up with him sooner or later, I think that time is now.

[DARKSEID]

Manny been KTFO before wouldn't say he has an ATG chin just that his chin wasn't tested since he got rocked at featherweight

You didn't watch the cotto, Mosley,Margarito and clottey, hatton fights?

Even if Pac wins, he's not a defensive fighter and he walked through cotto Mosley, Hatton and clottey's best shots

The biggest tell that Pac is declining is that he took even harder shots from Marquez last year, who's body looks like it does now.

[Pacquiao'd]

Totally, but the TS is right about the first KD. That seemed to pack way more power than expected

Did ysll not see how he loaded up on that punch and he hit Manny right on the tip of the chin with that shot

[HeroBando]

So because Martinez knocked Williams out cold, but the rest of his fighters on accumulation, then....what? His one punch power came out of nowhere for one fight and left?

How about Pacquia-Hatton? When was Pacquiao ever known for knocking guys out cold like that?

These sweeping statements are useless. Barker lasted as long as he did cause he was shelling up and wasn't taking many. Dzinziruk was feeling the power big time.

Pac had shown jarring power many times, Hatton was hardly the exception, just a highlight

[Phenom]

You didn't watch the cotto, Mosley,Margarito and clottey, hatton fights?

Even if Pac wins, he's not a defensive fighter and he walked through cotto Mosley, Hatton and clottey's best shots

The biggest tell that Pac is declining is that he took even harder shots from Marquez last year, who's body looks like it does now.

the only guy he fought with pop Mosely wasnt throwing shit tsame with Clottey which is why some people say it was fixed every Hatton was done in 2 rounds and Cotto doesn't have much power and was at a catchweight he really hasn't fought any body that could hurt him just alot of pastprime guys who couldn't pull the trigger

[A-Wolf]

People thought Marquez was kidding when he said he wouldn't leave it to the judges.

[SplitSecond]

in three fights, super accurate counter-puncher juan manuel marquez has never landed a perfect shot on pacquiao until the 4rth fight(once in the 3rd, once in the 6th), is basically what idiots are saying

he was obviously punching alot harder, just say he did alot of strenght training and that is what he was aiming for, anyone that thinks that was just ole normal juan in there is in denile