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  • #41
    Originally posted by GUEVARA View Post
    But fantasy wins dont get credit. no?
    What about Catch Weight wins that weaken opponents do they get credit ? what about getting pole axed by a guy Floyd made look amateurish at the same weights , actually Floyd was lighter than Manny what does that mean ? what about beating a guy drained and then being afraid to fight him unless he is drained again , does that get credit ? even though your first choice for your next fight was the same guy and you say no because of weight , does that count ? what about ducking a PEDS test and walking out on a 50/50 split in the biggest fight in history ?

    Buddy your hero is a WW fake , a hype job that stops big weakened guys but cant stop little healthy guys , on the contrary they beat him !

    Competition is very different without a forced handicap that weakens them , his resume is PROOF of that !

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
      What about Catch Weight wins that weaken opponents do they get credit ? what about getting pole axed by a guy Floyd made look amateurish at the same weights , actually Floyd was lighter than Manny what does that mean ? what about beating a guy drained and then being afraid to fight him unless he is drained again , does that get credit ? even though your first choice for your next fight was the same guy and you say no because of weight , does that count ? what about ducking a PEDS test and walking out on a 50/50 split in the biggest fight in history ?

      Buddy your hero is a WW fake , a hype job that stops big weakened guys but cant stop little healthy guys , on the contrary they beat him !

      Competition without a forced handicap that weakens them , his resume is PROOF of that !

      you mean the jmm-PBF catchweight where floyd cheated?

      floyds legacy is clearly inferior to both JMM and PAC.

      Due to his inactivity and cherry picking, sorry i have to burst your bubble.


      My hero? you mistake me for some die hard new boxing pacttard who will get his feelings hurt by such "insults".

      Just your everyday non bias and objective boxing fan here buddy.

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      • #43
        floyd is greater than sleepy-head.....and it has nothing to do with him being "undefeated". floyd's overall resume is just better....then when you factor in floyd's overall skill and technical ability, you really have no leg to stand on when trying to argue pac being greater.

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        • #44
          He's got a better resume, it's debatable who is a better fighter.
          I don't know how one could hate on Manny, I respect him even more as boxer and individual from his loss and how he took it on the chin and made no excuses.

          I hope he can come back and do something special before he retires.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by jaestix1 View Post
            floyd is greater than sleepy-head.....and it has nothing to do with him being "undefeated". floyd's overall resume is just better....then when you factor in floyd's overall skill and technical ability, you really have no leg to stand on when trying to argue pac being greater.
            LOL. floyds skills and technical abilities has been a product of his cherrypicking.

            PAC is greater on resume alone. So is JMM. Floyd's inactivity and chronic ducking
            sealed his mediocre second half of a boxing career.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by GUEVARA View Post
              But fantasy wins dont get credit. no?
              Originally posted by GUEVARA View Post
              you mean the jmm-PBF catchweight where floyd cheated?

              floyds legacy is clearly inferior to both JMM and PAC.

              Due to his inactivity and cherry picking, sorry i have to burst your bubble.


              My hero? you mistake me for some die hard new boxing pacttard who will get his feelings hurt by such "insults".

              Just your everyday non bias and objective boxing fan here buddy.
              One that has no clue about weight and you are full of bias , how can you be objective when you dont know what side is up , if you look for real at Mannys WW resume its a snow job of the highest order , discuss the content of Mannys Catch Weights , what role did they play , I know what they did and so does everybody thats wants to be honest about it , how the fck do you hurt Oscar Cotto and Margo yet Bradley says you dont punch hard and Juan takes them fine . how do you walk through them big guys yet cant walk through little guys they actually kick you ass ,,,, DING DING the big guys are weakened by the Catch Weights give the kid a prize !

              Dam Oscar was a 145 pound dead man , Floyd fought a version that was 164 lbs , do have any clue the difference in those versions , well Manny wouldnt fight the version Floyd fought lol , just like he wouldnt fight the version of Cotto that Floyd fought , and he had the opportunity and want , just not without a CW , buddy you dont know weight , all you see is a notch on the handle , you dont care if it was a shadow of the name it belongs to .

              Yep you got it right youre just a boxing fan , other than a monitor you know nothing else about the sport .
              Last edited by Reloaded; 12-17-2012, 06:06 AM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                One that has no clue about weight and you are full of bias , how can you be objective when you dont know what side is up , if you look for real at Mannys WW resume its a snow job of the highest order , discuss the content of Mannys Catch Weights , what role did they play , I know what they did and so does everybody thats wants to be honest about it , how the fck do you hurt Oscar Cotto and Margo yet Bradley says you dont punch hard and Juan takes them fine . how do you walk through them big guys yet cant walk through little guys they actually kick you ass ,,,, DING DING the big guys are weakened by the Catch Weights give the kid a prize !

                Dam Oscar was a 145 pound dead man , Floyd fought a version that was 164 lbs , do have any clue the difference in those versions , well Manny wouldnt fight the version Floyd fought lol , just like he wouldnt fight the version of Cotto that Floyd fought and he had the opportunity and want just not without a CW , buddy you dont know weight all you see is a notch on the handle , you dont care if it was a shadow of the name it belongs to .

                Yep you got it right youre just a boxing fan , other than a monitor you know nothing else about the sport .

                Seriously dude.

                You can try to cherrypick every PAC catweight success but thing is, he over performed on his 8 weight class providing Kos and victories when floyd was retiring and avoiding the big fights. History has shown being KOd doesnt tarnish a legacy like being a cherry picker like floyd. RJJ, Duran hearns, arguello,are considered to be in the higher echelon despite being KTFO.

                Cotto that floyd fought was 30% of prime cotto and at his worst weight, gone too multiple wars and clearly past prime.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by GUEVARA View Post
                  LOL. floyds skills and technical abilities has been a product of his cherrypicking.

                  PAC is greater on resume alone. So is JMM. Floyd's inactivity and chronic ducking
                  sealed his mediocre second half of a boxing career.
                  Your not bias are you lol , your a another butt hurt fanboy , take the standards you place on Floyd and apply them to Manny , fight for fight , weigh up everything about the each fight , and guess what Manny ends up face planted every which way !

                  Buddy the manipulation Manny has had in his matches is a RORT brilliantly orchestrated by Arum but as see through as a screen door , his resume shows it lol all through his career the only guys he can walk through are Catch-Weighted with a lowering weight , and they just happen to be iron chinned individuals , and he walks through them , but cant with anybody other than a shot fighter with new trainer and coke habit , just a coincidence right , Manny was always a superman right , WRONG , only with a CW that weakens the opponent , oh look back here again !

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                    Your not bias are you lol , your a another butt hurt fanboy , take the standards you place on Floyd and apply them to Manny , fight for fight , weigh up everything about the each fight , and guess what Manny ends up face planted every which way !

                    Buddy the manipulation Manny has had in his matches is a RORT brilliantly orchestrated by Arum but as see through as a screen door , his resume shows it lol all through his career the only guys he can walk through are Catch-Weighted with a lowering weight , and they just happen to be iron chinned individuals , and he walks through them , but cant with anybody other than a shot fighter with new trainer and coke habit , just a coincidence right , Manny was always a superman right , WRONG , only with a CW that weakens the opponent , oh look back here again !

                    LOL @ face planted every which way. possibly but he fights and isnt as inactive and cherrypicking like multiple retiree floyd chicken heart mayweather.

                    When you realize that losing/getting KTFO in a FOTY counts more than imaginary wins from fan boys and blatant ducking/retiring to avoid competition . sorry Thats how boxing works you actually need to fight to get credit. LOL

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by GUEVARA View Post
                      Seriously dude.

                      You can try to cherrypick every PAC catweight success but thing is, he over performed on his 8 weight class providing Kos and victories when floyd was retiring and avoiding the big fights. History has shown being KOd doesnt tarnish a legacy like being a cherry picker like floyd. RJJ, Duran hearns, arguello,are considered to be in the higher echelon despite being KTFO.

                      Cotto that floyd fought was 30% of prime cotto and at his worst weight, gone too multiple wars and clearly past prime.
                      You never been near a boxing ring have you , that kinda makes this like asking a lawn mower mechanic to tell you how tune a F1 car , Im arguing nuts and bolts of known figures and reactions in a fighter to those figures , do you know what it means to weigh-in at 145 and need IV fluid infusions to gain 2 pounds , thats deadman walking hint hint , what about Margo taking diuretics to make 150 whats all that about Einstein , and then why put Margo in a 26ft ring with 8oz gloves , all dont mean nothing right lol .

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