Rocky Sloppiano

[butterfly1964]

you're and idiot, too obviously.

whos the toughest guy tyson KOd? a 39 year old larry holmes?

whos the toughest guy marciano ever KOd? an iron tough prime ezzard charles.

gee, who sounds more impressive there?

wow, the flaming starts already, man people can't read something without blowing a fuse haha!

again, charles is a natural middleweight of light hw, and holmes is a full fledged hw.

[TheEvilSaint]

wow, the flaming starts already, man people can't read something without blowing a fuse haha!

again, charles is a natural middleweight of light hw, and holmes is a full fledged hw.

and charles was HW champion who beat joe louis and jersey joe walcott. that should shut you up about that.

holmes was 39 at the time he fought tyson.

[leff]

ur using numbers like they matter. if you were a corrales fan, youd still be bitching about castillo's weight problem.

dude this guy is interresting he says frazier would ko marciano cause frazier outweighs him by 20lbs of fat and at the same time he things 130lbs lee would kick ali`s ass

[butterfly1964]

ur using numbers like they matter. if you were a corrales fan, youd still be bitching about castillo's weight problem.

it does matter to an extent. i'm not talking about if someone is say 230 as fat and another is say 200 as muscle. if someone is a fit and trim and strong 200 and someone else is a fit and trim and strong 230, then most likely the 230 guy is stronger, punches harder, and could take a punch better than the guy weighing 200.

[butterfly1964]

and charles was HW champion who beat joe louis and jersey joe walcott. that should shut you up about that.

holmes was 39 at the time he fought tyson.

the only thing marciano had on tyson was heart, he was no way stronger, or with better skill that tyson.

[TheEvilSaint]

it does matter to an extent. i'm not talking about if someone is say 230 as fat and another is say 200 as muscle. if someone is a fit and trim and strong 200 and someone else is a fit and trim and strong 230, then most likely the 230 guy is stronger, punches harder, and could take a punch better than the guy weighing 200.

joe louis was 220lbs and he couldnt take a punch worth ****.

weight this much or weight that much dont mean ****.

stop twisting the facts into your favor.

[butterfly1964]

dude this guy is interresting he says frazier would ko marciano cause frazier outweighs him by 20lbs of fat and at the same time he things 130lbs lee would kick ali`s ass

lee is a martial artist, far superior to boxing, so weight does not matter. but with two boxers weight does matter, so your argument holds no bearing here.

[leff]

the only thing marciano had on tyson was heart, he was no way stronger, or with better skill that tyson.

uuuum aint we forgetting something called stamina

[TheEvilSaint]

the only thing marciano had on tyson was heart, he was no way stronger, or with better skill that tyson.

marciano had more stamina, more heart, a better chin, and a better resume.

but as far as strength and skill, yes tyson was superior.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

ok listen
Marciano didn't have natrual boxing abilty which is why he mad up for it with loads of heart,stamina, and the hardest punch ever brought to boxing. He hit harder then shavers,and yes even foreman (its close). There are very few people in boxing history that can stand up to Marciano without getting beat down these ppl are- Prime Ali,Prime Foreman,Prime Tyson, Prime Joe Louis , and probably Prime Holmes. And each of these he has a decent shot at beating the only people i see him really having trouble with are Louis and probably Ali. so yea he was alittle sloppy and he didn't have natrual talent but one of his punches could basically floor any of these boxers. the only reason he'd have trouble against them is because he'd have to hit them first and theres why they would go into later rounds
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