Should Lewis have given Vitali a rematch?

[!!! Beowulf !!!]

Oh really? I dont see him being a class above a confident Wlad.
Was he better then Wlad? Sure. Was he a a CLASS ABOVE? hell no.

As for Vitali, well I see him beat Lennox in a rematch. Lennox wouldnt be able to knock him out and Vitali definetly has what it takes to drop Lennox.

Anyway Lennox won the fight fare and square.

Did he have the right not to give a rematch? Sure, but in every single boxing fans eyes, hater or not, everyone wanted to see a rematch.
Klitschko haters say that the rematch would have been an easy win for Lennox. Whatever you say, then he should have fought. He didnt, because he knew that the odds of him winning are that of him loosing.

Lennox had nothing to gain from a rematch and maybe Vitali would have won, but Lennox Lewis will go down as a hall of famer, whilst Vitali probably won't.


I like Wlad Klitschko, he is unpredictable, has heart and exciting to watch, but he isn't nearly as good as Lewis. I'd still pay good money to watch the guy because he is one of those rare things: A heavyweight who wants to fight the best.

[SonnyG8R]

Should Lewis have given Vitali a rematch?

YES!

End of discussion. If you are going to promise someone a rematch you should keep your word.

Lewis is a lying chump.

[Enayze]

Yes he should've gave Vitali a rematch, he promised him one, the public was calling for it, and even at one point was offered 40 million.

He retired out of fear.

[Enayze]

A fully prepared Lewis could have lost to anyone, at anytime. He had alot of fights where he was rocked and beaten around the ring, and came back to win, which says alot for his will to win, but very little for his skills. After his carreer has ended, with him suffering one-punch knockout losses on two separate occasions, one could say that in those other fights, he was always one punch away from being knocked out. We all know he his big dream was to retire as champion, but after the narrow escape with the belts from the Klitschko fight, in which he was rocked and beaten up, and after two uppercuts in separate rounds that everyone seems so excited about, he spent the last minute of the sixth round on the ropes, with VK splitting his guard with jabs and right hands, he took the coward's way out. Tell me, if you are the champeon, and basically get your ass kicked in a title defense, but are able to win the fight on a technicality, and wanted to be recognized as an all time great, wouldn't it matter more that everyone knew that you retired with no question marks over your head, no unfinished bussiness, than just the fact that you were still champ when you retired? I mean, he was getting his ass beat in the last round of the fight, the note the fight ended on was him being hit repeatedly, up against the ropes, not punching back, how could anyone with any pride claim that as a win? It's simple, he wasn't sure he could beat VK, that's why he looked for excuses, made a big hoopla about VK's eye not being ready, and then retired when the doctors said it was OK.

A fully prepared Lewis lost to Oliver Mc'Call.

[Truth]

Nope, Lewis did the right thing by retiring when he did. Roy Jones should have retired after the first Tarver fight.

[Enayze]

Anyone watching the fight with an unbiased head could easily see that Lewis was in control of the late part of the last round.

The same people who complain the fight was stopped on cuts are also the same to jump for joy when Wladimir's last fight was stopped due to cuts and Wlad won.

There was more then one cut on the face of Vitali and his mouth was bleeding heavily as well. I'm tired of the could of and should of...the bottom line is he didnt. Vitali got caught with clean punches to create the facial damage and had one of worst cuts I have ever seen on a fighter.

The doctor and the ref wanted to stop the fight much earlier but decided to let it go a few rounds in order to give Vitali a chance.

The bottom line in this fight is Lennox taking a fight with only two weeks to train for Vitali, came in out of shape and still won.

While some could say Vitali had only two weeks to train as well, Lennox busted up Vitali like no man has done before or after him. Being a person that has the entire career of Lewis on tape, I can't even recall any other fight where Lewis did the type of damage that he did.

Lennox won the fight clean, he was due to retire prior to even facing Vitali. Did he owe Vitali a rematch?...No

And I am a MUCH bigger fan of Vitali then I ever was of Lewis. The loss was Vitali's fault, he had no reason to turn the fight into a brawl and he did because he got gun happy when Lewis was rocked in round two. Vitali had little to no defense in the fight and allowed Lewis to land the shots.

Since you have Lewises career on tape, you also know that in no other fight was he busted up, out punched, and outlanded like he was in the Klitschko fight. That last part of the 6th round didn't show Lewis in control, what it showed was that both men were pretty tired. Lewis collapsed on his stool, indicating that he might've had much less in the tank than Vitali.

[Pno]

You're a big man for giving me a red bar.



Vitali and Wladimir are decent enough guys and i admire their charity work, but Lennox is just a class above them both.


I'm not a Klitschko hater, but i just don't get the over protective nature of their fans. Vitali hasn't earnt any where near the respect that Lennox Lewis earnt as a boxer.

I dont remember making ur bar red, but I'm sure I could've.
Why are you changing your tune now? Now it's only boxing skills that you were discussing?

[!!! Beowulf !!!]

I dont remember making ur bar red, but I'm sure I could've.
Why are you changing your tune now? Now it's only boxing skills that you were discussing?

I didn't mean man in the sense you meant. Vitali isn't man enough to give others much of an opportunity to fight for his title, at least Lewis gave the rather dangerous Vitali Klitchsko a crack at beating him.


Everyone knows that the Klitchsko's give a lot of time and money to charity, but this is a Boxing forum and in the ring Lewis was more of a man than Vitali.


Don't consider this an attack on Vitali, he is the best around in his division, but Lewis is a top 10 all time heavyweight.

[Bozo_no no]

Since you have Lewises career on tape, you also know that in no other fight was he busted up, out punched, and outlanded like he was in the Klitschko fight. That last part of the 6th round didn't show Lewis in control, what it showed was that both men were pretty tired. Lewis collapsed on his stool, indicating that he might've had much less in the tank than Vitali.

Ahh, the classic "He looked more tired on his stool" line.

Ever see the Thrilla in Manilla? Why don't you watch how Ali COLLAPSES on his stool in rounds 10 - 14.

If "looking" tired counted for anything, that might be the slightest bit relevent.

But it doesn't.

Lewis won the 6th round BIG, and had Vitali hurt at the end. Vitali was stumbling after Lewis desperate to grab on to him, and didn't even throw a punch in the last 20 seconds.

You clowns are all the same. You're just looking for a little shred of something to hold on to to make yourselves feel better.

The bottom line about that fight, is that Vitali had his chance to take out an old, inactive and under conditioned Lennox Lewis, and he got his face torn to pieces and LOST by TKO:


The bottom line about them as fighters, is that Lewis is an assured Hall of Fame fighter who retired having beaten every fighter he's ever faced.

Vitali is a fighter who's LOST to the two top fighters he's ever faced, who's biggest career wins are over Larry Donald and Corrie Sanders, and who won't get anywhere near the Hall of Fame without buying a ticket.

But who knows, maybe making a few more threads like this in which to collectivly cry in might change some of that.

[Pno]

If Lewis was so confident that he was better than VK and that he didn't have to rematch him, then why was he trying to get so many other fighters to win over Vitali? It seemed like he was always calling up whoever VK was going to fight to give them failing advice. You don't do that unless you've got a chip on your shoulder. Plus, I'm pretty sure that Lewis really wanted to see VK's 'dynasty' (for lack of better words?) crushed. Lewis was the prime candidate for doing it, so why didn't he? If it's because he didn't have to, then why did he try to get so many other fighters to do it with his advice and constant heckling VK after retiring?