Should Lewis have given Vitali a rematch?

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  • dodge
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    #61
    Klitchko lost. Lennox won. He went out on top. Good for him.

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    • Pno
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      #62
      sometimes you gotta realize it's time to step aside and let the next person take the reigns..

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      • Pno
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        #63
        Originally posted by Rick Reeno
        Don King owns just about every heavyweight in the division. Rahman may beat Klitschko in May and Don will have all four belts. Every way Klitschko turns he must fight a King fighter. Klitschko has to unify the division, he can only go so far by fighting the Williams' and Johnsons of the division. He has to fight Ruiz or Byrd in 05. Even if Vitali beats Byrd, he still has to face Ruiz, then the WBO champ. After all is said, King promotes three Vitali fights without even having options on Vitali. If Vitali unifies the division, most the contenders facing Vitali will likely be King fighters.
        it's definitely true that DK owns much of the HW division and it's boxers and that everywhere VK turns is DK waiting for him, but VK won't fight any DK fighter unless they sort out a contractual agreement. VK could fight more Williams' and Johnsons if DK is too demanding when trying to sort out the contracts. DK doesn't want to loose the upper hand. He won't be DK if he does.

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        • hollister
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          #64
          Originally posted by Rick Reeno
          McCall was NOT a journeyman when he beat Lewis and Rahman has never been a journeyman. To call Rahman a journeyman is funny when Vitali is fighting him NEXT.

          What fault is it to Lewis that Rahman came in fat or McCall had a nervous breakdown because Lewis was beating him that bad. That's like blaming Vitali for Johnson and Sanders (Rahman knocked out) coming in like fat slobs.

          Vitali should forget about Lewis and fight Byrd or Ruiz.

          And please spare me the "Don King wants options so the fight can't happen crap". Wlad has fought many Don King fighters, before and after he was champ and Don never wanted or got options. Don has stated over and over on TV and in the press that he does not want any options on Klitschko because he is confident his fighters will win.

          I may not like Lewis personally because he was a bit too into himself for my tastes and his excuses after losing to Rahman were laughable but, the guy was one of the best "big" men to get into the ring. He was no Jack Johnson, he was no Marciano but he fought and defeated every name heavyweight in the last 15 years. There is not one heavyweight fighter in the last 15 years with a better record from top to bottom then Lewis (fighters who fought at heavy their entire career). He fought everyone except Bowe....who threw his belt in the trash rather then fight Lennox.

          The record speaks for itself. Most of the champions around now were B level fighters who noone even cared about back when Lewis was fighting. Now we are forced to watch them because with the exception of Vitali, there is no real heavyweight threat in the entire division.

          I have no problem with his record, or his skills, but the way he basically ran with the title just for the sake of being able to say he retired as champ still reeks of cowardess, Rick. Think about it, Ali was also obsessed with his place in history, would he end his career with a controversial win that would allow boxing fans to question his ability, when he was at a point at his career where, if he came into a fight in shape, he would be as good as he had ever been in his career? I doubt it. And again, Rick, VK lost the fight, I've said it too many times already, and if Lewis had said, "Ok, I'm starting to feel my age, I've had enough" then I wouldn't even post on this, but he retired after an eternity had gone by, and doctors had cleared VK to fight him again, basically, after he was out of excuses not to fight him. Ok Rahman and McCall were "contenders", is that better? Regardless, neither of them have ever been great fighters, they both just had a big enough punch to flatten LL, and it's not his fault, but if he were a man, he wouldn't even claim the McCall 2 fight as a victory. He hasn't fought or handled his career like the all time great he wants to be remembered as. He's acting like a baby, sitting on the sidelines picking everyone over VK, not even trying to hide his contempt. I guess my problem with him is more about him as a person than as a fighter.
          Last edited by hollister; 01-11-2005, 05:43 PM.

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          • Dark Destroyer
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            #65
            Originally posted by Eyeh8you
            I have to agree w/ the ******* snaggle tooth here. Lennox was gonna retire, now if he were to fight another guy after the 1st fight then YES, but he retired w/ his brain and legacy intact.
            Your best post EVER

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            • Pno
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              #66
              basically..
              He should have given VK the rematch if only for the single fact that he said he would.
              I think that VK knew that and maybe that's one of many reasons why he was in LL's face after their match asking him for the rematch.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Pno
                basically..
                He should have given VK the rematch if only for the single fact that he said he would.
                I think that VK knew that and maybe that's one of many reasons why he was in LL's face after their match asking him for the rematch.
                Hmmmm maybe he did offer him one then. I don't know that for definate. Maybe Vitali was just begging for one

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                • Pno
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                  #68
                  I'm pretty sure I remember in the background after the fight Lenox saying yes to the rematch offer from VK. It was like VK wasn't going to quit asking and pestering him until he got the answer. And if my memory does serve me right, it was like VK was playing it up in front of the cameras like 'see, he said it'
                  but maybe i just dreamt that!
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                  • dodge
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                    #69
                    If lennox fought Vk again, he could destroy his face some more. That was brutal. Hi Wez.

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                      #70
                      too bad the cut above the eye was due to a missed punch, an unclean shot.
                      good job Lenox!

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