GuNzZ - Berto, what now?

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  • Mr. Fantastic
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    #11
    Originally posted by THE REED™
    Wtf......? Just answer the question or move on.
    So it's wrong to call people out on their bullshit now?
    Now all of a sudden Berto is the victim.

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    • Jordank
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      #12
      Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
      So it's wrong to call people out on their bullshit now?
      Now all of a sudden Berto is the victim.
      Wasnt he cleared?

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      • El Angel
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        #13
        Originally posted by Mojita
        Honestly. A new trainer will suit him better .
        This guy gets it

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        • Pullcounter
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          #14
          Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
          So after watching Berto louse the joint up Saturday. Yes, I said louse the joint up! Robert did not impress me nor has he ever impressed me. He fought a dirty fight and showed how Berto has failed to mature. Berto had the tools to outbox him clearly with some foot work and his fast hands yet he still allowed himself to be dragged into a phonebooth. He showed grit and guts but with his talents he needed to show us something else. So my question is after a few years as "green" what now for Andre Berto? The obvious is a rematch with "The Ghost" but what else? Losses to Ortiz and Robert and a close win over Collazzo what now?

          GuNzZ
          There's still fights out there for him... the rematch against Ortiz... fights against other entertaining fighters like Rios, Maidana... and if Khan moves up, that might be interesting... And there's still Cotto in the future... and the Gingexican can still use Berto as a stepping stone

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          • LEFTYGUNZZ
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            #15
            Originally posted by jsfd26
            Berto might've had the tools to do whatever but guess what? Guerrero took them away. It boggles my mind when people say Guerrero didn't impress. Not even his ability to take a punch impressed you?


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            Anyone can be a punching bag my friend, he took an awesome punch but so does a brick wall. My point was he did nothing outstanding, he is not overly fast, overly powerful or a supreme boxer. Berto lost the fight Guerrero did not win the fight.

            Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
            Typical. Funny how you're one of the cheater avengers and complaining about a so called cheater being roughed up in a so called "dirty" fight.
            I never said Guerrero cheated or cried cause Berto got "roughed up" no, no sir. I am crying cause Berto allowed himself to get roughed up.

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            • Elotero
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              #16
              Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
              Anyone can be a punching bag my friend, he took an awesome punch but so does a brick wall. My point was he did nothing outstanding, he is not overly fast, overly powerful or a supreme boxer. Berto lost the fight Guerrero did not win the fight.


              I never said Guerrero cheated or cried cause Berto got "roughed up" no, no sir. I am crying cause Berto allowed himself to get roughed up.
              Berto lost the fight Guerrero did not win the fight.

              There are some times this excuse is valid. This isn't one of them.

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              • LEFTYGUNZZ
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                #17
                Originally posted by Elotero
                Berto lost the fight Guerrero did not win the fight.

                There are some times this excuse is valid. This isn't one of them.
                Guerrero fought the hardest he could while Berto had an off night. My case is proven the fighter who had the off night lost the fight.

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                • Spray_resistant
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                  #18
                  How about he actually learns how to box crazy idea here?

                  The guy has no head movement, defensive skill, sense of timing or where and when to place his shots and has gotten this far entirely on superior athletic ability.

                  Probably is one of the least skilled world class fighters in the world today.

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                  • Elotero
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
                    Guerrero fought the hardest he could while Berto had an off night. My case is proven the fighter who had the off night lost the fight.
                    What case bro?

                    The non-career WW bullied the career WW from pillar to post. Shut both his eyes and got 2 KD's. That's not an off night, that's getting your ass whooped.

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                    • -Antonio-
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
                      So after watching Berto louse the joint up Saturday. Yes, I said louse the joint up! Robert did not impress me nor has he ever impressed me. He fought a dirty fight and showed how Berto has failed to mature. Berto had the tools to outbox him clearly with some foot work and his fast hands yet he still allowed himself to be dragged into a phonebooth. He showed grit and guts but with his talents he needed to show us something else. So my question is after a few years as "green" what now for Andre Berto? The obvious is a rematch with "The Ghost" but what else? Losses to Ortiz and Robert and a close win over Collazzo what now?

                      GuNzZ
                      Berto has never shown any development as a boxer and he has a weak chin. I don't think he'll ever develop those skills. While everyone marveled at the brutality of that fight I was frustrated by how limited Berto was. He pretty much kept making the same mistakes over and over again. This made Guerrero look far better than he actually is.

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