Why hasn't Haye fought Fury?

[Enzo Mc is SHIT]

People need to get over the Harrison fight. Fact is that Haye was offered a truckload of money (I've seen estimates at £10m - around $14m) for a fight against one of British boxing's few household names, which he could win in his sleep. He wouldn't have made half that against an Adamek, Arreola or Povetkin.

If you can honestly say you wouldn't have taken that fight, if you were in Haye's shoes, you either have incredible sporting integrity or you're ****ing delusional.

[White_Knight]

what? fury gave up his titles so he didnt have to fight price.

This may very well be, but it doesn't change the fact that Fury has been calling out Price and Haye. If you search his twitter account I'm sure this will be substantiated.

I'm not maligning Price for not taking the fight. He has only had 14 fights and is, understandably, stepping up slowly. Whether Fury called out Price when it was infeasible for Price to fight, I don't know. He has, however, been calling out Haye for a while. In fact, prior to the Haye-Chisora fight, Fury stated he wanted to fight the winner. Haye chose to go on reality television instead.

[Enzo Mc is SHIT]

Price isn't refusing to fight Fury, nor is Haye (although I doubt Haye would bother anyway).

I can call out David Price right now. **** it, I might as well call out Wlad while I'm at it. It doesn't mean I'd answer the phone.

[White_Knight]

Price isn't refusing to fight Fury, nor is Haye (although I doubt Haye would bother anyway).

I can call out David Price right now. **** it, I might as well call out Wlad while I'm at it. It doesn't mean I'd answer the phone.

The difference is you're not a well-known heavyweight contender.

Fury has as much reason to expect a fight from Haye than Haye does from Vitali. After all, Haye lost only 2 fights ago by an 8 round margin. In the meantime he has won 1 fight against a guy who already had 3 losses on resume. That does not boost you back into title contention.

Fury, on the other hand, is 19-0. He is ranked above Haye in WBC rankings. A win over Fury would have done a lot to boost Haye into title contention. In fact, if I understand correctly, if Haye would have accepted Fury's offer and beaten him, he would have gone on to fight in a final eliminator, the winner of which is a madatory for Wladimir.

[FrankieBruno]

The difference is you're not a well-known heavyweight contender.

Fury has as much reason to expect a fight from Haye than Haye does from Vitali. After all, Haye lost only 2 fights ago by an 8 round margin. In the meantime he has won 1 fight against a guy who already had 3 losses on resume. That does not boost you back into title contention.

Fury, on the other hand, is 19-0. He is ranked above Haye in WBC rankings. A win over Fury would have done a lot to boost Haye into title contention. In fact, if I understand correctly, if Haye would have accepted Fury's offer and beaten him, he would have gone on to fight in a final eliminator, the winner of which is a madatory for Wladimir.

If Fury can bring the value, as in a big payday for Haye, then Mr Haymaker will be in the ring in 20 secs and ready to KO the bum and walk away with the pot of gold

Haye doesnt fight for chump change, he would have never considered fighting Chisora if it werent for that brawl which then led to the big money fight.

Chisora was never on Hayes radar until that brawl.

Same with Audley, big money was offered.

Fury sadly doesnt bring that kind of ££££ and thats all Haye cares about.

Haye wud dispose of the bum within 3 rounds i can guarantee that

[Jam Jars]

The difference is you're not a well-known heavyweight contender.

Fury has as much reason to expect a fight from Haye than Haye does from Vitali. After all, Haye lost only 2 fights ago by an 8 round margin. In the meantime he has won 1 fight against a guy who already had 3 losses on resume. That does not boost you back into title contention.

Fury, on the other hand, is 19-0. He is ranked above Haye in WBC rankings. A win over Fury would have done a lot to boost Haye into title contention. In fact, if I understand correctly, if Haye would have accepted Fury's offer and beaten him, he would have gone on to fight in a final eliminator, the winner of which is a madatory for Wladimir.

Haye's a former champion that most rate as the 3rd best Heavyweight in the division. The number 2 has been running his mouth about knocking Haye out. He was promised a fight with the number 2 if he beat Chisora, he did so in more impressive fashion than the number 2. This is the fight most people want to see above all others in the division.

Tyson Fury hasn't beaten a top 10 fighter. Refuses to fight his domestic rival, isn't a big draw and is tied into a TV contract for money that is peanuts compared to what the big names make.

Tell me how those situations are anywhere near the same.

[Enzo Mc is SHIT]

If Fury can bring the value, as in a big payday for Haye, then Mr Haymaker will be in the ring in 20 secs and ready to KO the bum and walk away with the pot of gold

Abso-bloody-exactly.

Haye will only fight for a title or huge money, ideally both. He won't take on a domestic fight unless it's too good to turn down.

[paulf]

Haye has already faced two domestic contenders the past few years and people complained endlessly about it. Why bother with Fury and Price? Price will probably be a good heavyweight challenger, but Fury was dropped by a feather-fisted no-name a few fights back. Haye would destroy Tyson just like he did Chisora.

Also, Fury won't take this fight. His people are talking about moving him strait from Johnson (if he wins) to a Klitschko fight. They know damn well his limitations are looking for the best possible paydays versus outcomes.

If Fury challenges for the title and loses, he could go strait into another big payday against Price.

[White_Knight]

If Fury can bring the value, as in a big payday for Haye, then Mr Haymaker will be in the ring in 20 secs and ready to KO the bum and walk away with the pot of gold

Haye doesnt fight for chump change, he would have never considered fighting Chisora if it werent for that brawl which then led to the big money fight.

Chisora was never on Hayes radar until that brawl.

Same with Audley, big money was offered.

Fury sadly doesnt bring that kind of ££££ and thats all Haye cares about.

Haye wud dispose of the bum within 3 rounds i can guarantee that

Haye would have made more money fighting Fury than being on reality tv. If he felt he could ko Fury so easily, it would have made sense to take the fight as it would have increased the public's appetite for a fight against Vitali. It would have given Haye an opportunity to demonstrate his skills which people now think are overrated because of the Wlad fight. The other things is, reality tv is watched mostly by women and teenage girls. How is this going to increase interest in a heavyweight boxing match? If it was a strategic move, it was a wierd one.

Whether Haye was after money or trying to increase interest in a fight with Vitali, both would have been better served by fighting Fury than going into the outback.

Haye's a former champion that most rate as the 3rd best Heavyweight in the division. The number 2 has been running his mouth about knocking Haye out. He was promised a fight with the number 2 if he beat Chisora, he did so in more impressive fashion than the number 2. This is the fight most people want to see above all others in the division.

Tyson Fury hasn't beaten a top 10 fighter. Refuses to fight his domestic rival, isn't a big draw and is tied into a TV contract for money that is peanuts compared to what the big names make.

Tell me how those situations are anywhere near the same.

Chisora was 14-0-0 and probably a top 10 heavyweight according to some organisations when Fury beat him.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by saying Haye beat Chisora more impressively than Vitali did. Didn't Price beat Audley more impressively than Haye did? Also, Haye beat Barret quicker than Wlad did, but Wlad then beat Haye.

The promise was not made by Vitali himself and was made too flippantly to be considered a promise (that is, if you're refer to the comment before the press conference brawl).

Haye may have been a champion but if you lose you plummet down the rankings list. Haye lost 2 fights ago. When Wlad 1st lost a world title he had to wait 8 fights to get another (world )title shot.

The only valid reason you give for the fight is because people want to see it. But if Perez, Wilder, and Price perform well in their next outings, people may want to see one of them fight Vitali instead.

[Jam Jars]

Haye would have made more money fighting Fury than being on reality tv. If he felt he could ko Fury so easily, it would have made sense to take the fight as it would have increased the public's appetite for a fight against Vitali. It would have given Haye an opportunity to demonstrate his skills which people now think are overrated because of the Wlad fight. The other things is, reality tv is watched mostly by women and teenage girls. How is this going to increase interest in a heavyweight boxing match? If it was a strategic move, it was a wierd one.

Whether Haye was after money or trying to increase interest in a fight with Vitali, both would have been better served by fighting Fury than going into the outback.



Chisora was 14-0-0 and probably a top 10 heavyweight according to some organisations when Fury beat him.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by saying Haye beat Chisora more impressively than Vitali did. Didn't Price beat Audley more impressively than Haye did? Also, Haye beat Barret quicker than Wlad did, but Wlad then beat Haye.

The promise was not made by Vitali himself and was made too flippantly to be considered a promise (that is, if you're refer to the comment before the press conference brawl).

Haye may have been a champion but if you lose you plummet down the rankings list. Haye lost 2 fights ago. When Wlad 1st lost a world title he had to wait 8 fights to get another (world )title shot.

The only valid reason you give for the fight is because people want to see it. But if Perez, Wilder, and Price perform well in their next outings, people may want to see one of them fight Vitali instead.

Vitali calling Haye saying he will KO Haye and it's his goal to beat Haye, is not a valid reason?

Haye losing to Wlad isn't a reason for the Vitali-Haye fight not to happen, Vitali didn't beat Haye.

You're are right maybe people will want to see Price etc in the future, but they may not and they don't now. Pretty pointless argument there.

This fight has the most interest, most money to be made, is the most personal and in many people's eyes the most competitive fight in the division. There's no good argument for Vitali not to take this fight if he continues his career.