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  • JUYJUY
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    Eubank and Benn on Naseem Hamed

    from Eubank's autobiography -


    I was explaining why I wasn't speaking to Naz at this time. I had seen him on ITV saying, 'Chris Eubank stole all my moves.' Bearing in mind that I am eight years older than Naz, this seemed strange enough. He's known me since he was still a schoolkid, I was one of his hero's infact, his aunty told me that he used to watch my fights over and over again. Naz was this cheeky little chap whom I had always offered advice to, I always gave him my time, he had my mobile phone number if he ever needed me, and he regularly used to call me up for advice. He was even at my wedding. He was such a cheeky little character and I always like him for that. So when I heard this statement on television, I was very upset. It was such a snide thing to do. For a start, they were my moves, but it was knowing how considerate I had been towards him that pained me.

    Shortly after this, I was the Royal Lancaster Hotel in London for a charity boxing event. Naz had come to a changing room and we were talking. I said to him, 'Naz, how could you do that? Me? I don't mind, but how can you lie to the people?' I tried to pass over to him the philosophy that your boxing career is not just about how good a fighter you are, you have to be a good person too. Apologising to me didn't cut it - the apology needed to be to the ITV viewers, the great masses. He listened and then said to me. 'I don't think you want me to apologise for me, I think you want me to do it for you.'

    I said, 'This isn't about me, it's about you, you lied. You need to tell people your truth, explain to them that maybe you were cajoled into it, explain to them that your trainer Brendan Ingle made you say it, like you've told me. Tell them the truth. I can't accept you lying to the public at large because you will hurt yourself, can't you see that?'

    I was very adament about this, so I went on to give him example after example of the same principle, basically trying to show him that what he had done was underhanded and backstabbing and that things will not work out well if you live your life that way.

    'In life, if you cheat,' I told him, 'you will be found out. You can't be imitation, imitation is suicide. Be yourself, you're talented enough, you don't have to put me down or stamp on my name to climb the ladder. You have to work. It's about substance, it's not about making me look bad.'

    Then I quoted him a small extract from the 1692 poem, 'Desiderata', which was believed by some to have been found in a churchyard in Baltimore (author unknown). One of the stanza goes like this: 'If you compare yourself with others you may become vain and bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.'

    I also quoted from a pop song that was out at the time, called 'Everybody's free (wear sunscreen)', whose lyrics listed a litany of guidance, one of which was 'Don't waste your time on jealousy, sometimes you're ahead and sometimes you're behind, the race is long and in the end it is only with yourself.'

    I was trying to pass on these real nuggets of advice to Naz but he couldn't take it on and I became quite frustrated. In the end, I spoke to him thus, 'If you don't understand or perhaps won't accept what I'm saying, especially that you should apologise to the ITV viewers, then remember this. I expect you'll make champion, and I expect you'll win all the honours. I expect you'll make your name and fame. When you do and they make you King for a day, as they will, you understand this: when you walk by me, when you see me anywhere near you, walk on by like the little runt that you are.'
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    from Benn's autobiography -


    He came into my gym once in Tenerife, strutting around like he owned the place, and I had to tell him, 'Out, mate! Get out of my gym.' He was giving it large, and I just thought, 'Nah, mate, don't come in here, giving it all large. Show me some proper respect.' He might have all those Mickey Mouse guys around him, licking his ass - 'Oh Nazeem, Nazeem!' - but he's not going to get that treatment from me. What a bunch of pricks! And then you see them carrying him into the ring like he's some kind of king and they're his ******. Have some respect for yourself!

    And then, after the last Collins fight, he comes out in the papers slagging me off, saying, 'You can break my legs and rip my arms off, but I would still come out fighting.' What a load of **** - try it on with me, and I will break your legs and rip your arms off and, at the end of the day, the public caned him for what he was saying. Maybe if he'd done half of what I'd done they'd have taken their hat off to him, but they all know! I've fought everybody, but Hamed hasn't had nearly the same calibre of opponents. Everyone knows that there are fighters out there who will annihilate him, and he's just avoiding them. If you're meant to be the best in the world, Nazeem, then go and fight some of the top Americans. Prove yourself, like I did. Then you can run your mouth off. But in the boxing fraternity, we all know that he's fighting nobodies.

    When I saw him at the Brit Awards, I gave him a piece of my mind: 'Let me tell you now, I'll punch you up in the air, you little ****.' Does he reckon he wants to exchange punches with me? I'll screw him up into a little ball and throw him in the waste paper bin.

    The kid goes and tells all the papers, 'Oh, Herol Graham would of beaten Benn and Eubank on the same night'. Herol Graham was, in my view, the perfect example of a second-rate fighter. He was just wasting his time hanging around for a title fight. I said he was not in the top drawer and that is why he wouldn't fight me. I made him offer after offer throughout 1988 and into 1989, but he didn't want to know. He was being offered more money than he'd made in his last five fights, just to fight me. Sumbu Kalambay beat Graham by a mile when he was 30, but I got rid of Iran Barkley, Robbie Sims and Doug DeWitt more impressively than Kalambay managed in his peak fights. Graham switched off against Julian Jackson and left himself wide open, how can anybody say he'd of stood much chance against me at my physical peak in 88 or early 89?

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      #3
      Originally posted by JUYJUY
      from Eubank's autobiography -



      Shortly after this, I was the Royal Lancaster Hotel in London for a charity boxing event. Naz had come to a changing room and we were talking. I said to him, 'Naz, how could you do that? Me? I don't mind, but how can you lie to the people?' I tried to pass over to him the philosophy that your boxing career is not just about how good a fighter you are, you have to be a good person too. Apologising to me didn't cut it - the apology needed to be to the ITV viewers, the great masses. He listened and then said to me. 'I don't think you want me to apologise for me, I think you want me to do it for you.'

      I said, 'This isn't about me, it's about you, you lied. You need to tell people your truth, explain to them that maybe you were cajoled into it, explain to them that your trainer Brendan Ingle made you say it, like you've told me. Tell them the truth. I can't accept you lying to the public at large because you will hurt yourself, can't you see that?'

      I was very adament about this, so I went on to give him example after example of the same principle, basically trying to show him that what he had done was underhanded and backstabbing and that things will not work out well if you live your life that way.

      'In life, if you cheat,' I told him, 'you will be found out. You can't be imitation, imitation is suicide. Be yourself, you're talented enough, you don't have to put me down or stamp on my name to climb the ladder. You have to work. It's about substance, it's not about making me look bad.'

      Then I quoted him a small extract from the 1692 poem, 'Desiderata', which was believed by some to have been found in a churchyard in Baltimore (author unknown). One of the stanza goes like this: 'If you compare yourself with others you may become vain and bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.'

      I was trying to pass on these real nuggets of advice to Naz but he couldn't take it on and I became quite frustrated.
      All this coming from a man who lied and cheated on his wife? Hypocritical *******. If only Nas knew about his adultery, he could have told him to take the advice and shove it up his anus.

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      • Manfredo Jr
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        #4
        Originally posted by medium-deek
        All this coming from a man who lied and cheated on his wife? Hypocritical *******. If only Nas knew about his adultery, he could have told him to take the advice and shove it up his anus.
        yeah i agree lol

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        • EXIGE
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          Right, ok. The Naz hate isnt cool, and its also so ****ing biased. I mean, nice article Juy, despite this, because its always nice to hear someone's perspective no matter how wrong it is. At the same time, I only have to look at the bit that says "From Eubank/Benn's Autobiography" and i can switch into "this is coming from them, with no input from Naz" mode.

          If i got hold of some **** Naz said, it would be saying he sparked both of them out with his weaker hand. You get where i am going with this?

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            #6
            we should all rally for JuyJuy to have his own forum

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              Chris banks on Naz to say sorry

              CHRIS EUBANK is demanding a public apology from Naseem Hamed for branding him a copycat.
              British boxing's two most charismatic characters share top billing at Manchester's Nynex Arena on April 18. And Eubank has re-opened the feud which has already landed them in hot water with their governing body.
              "One day I was watching TV when Naz said 'good luck to Chris Eubank, he's stolen all my moves.' I couldn't believe it. In the 50 fights I've had, I've jumped over the rope every time and never tripped.
              "The man's called me a fraud and you just don't do that. You don't attack another fighter, especially when he's not even in your own weight class. Naz has apologised in private, but that's not good enough. He must apologise to all the people who saw that interview."
              Eubank and Hamed, who defends his WBO featherweight title on the Manchester bill against Puerto Rico's Wilfredo Vazquez, were rebuked by the British Boxing Board of Control for a (
              dust-up at Heathrow Airport after they both fought in Sheffield last October.
              Now Eubank, in retreat in Cornwall as he prepares to challenge fellow Brit Carl Thompson for the WBO cruiserweight crown, has come out of hiding to admit Hamed's verbals get under his skin.
              "He has talked about my nostrils being too big, that I am ugly and copy his moves. It's childish.
              "Does it bother me? Yes. It's not nice, especially as I like the kid and have guided him. Naz used to call me up. He came to my wedding uninvited, but it was nice to have him there. He was such a nice kid and still is, as long as the camera's aren't on him."




              But they kissed and made up..
              Click Here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sport/232540.stm

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              • medium-deek
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                #8
                Originally posted by JUYJUY
                But they kissed and made up..
                Click Here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sport/232540.stm
                /\ /\ /\ /\
                Thursday, December 10, 1998 Published at 15:45 GMT

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                • TheEvilSaint
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                  #9
                  oh my nonmerciful god, go away JUYJUY and take ur ******ty obsession with ur boys with you.

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                  • Easy-E
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                    #10
                    i find it funny that a thread about three retired fighters isnt in boxing history

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