Rate Pacquiao's last 5 opponents

[HeroBando]

He hadn't even fought at 140 properly before the Pac fight moron, let alone being a champion there.

Notice I say properly, because the one round farce against Ramos wasn't a fight, it was a just a pointless show. His last fight was Katsidis at 135.

He fought Floyd at 144 or whatever, then of his own volition went up to 140. His next fight he won an interim belt at 140

[Fasttimes]

The difference is, Hatton proved he's limited at 147. Bradley did a lot better against similar level comp the one time both tested 147.

JMM was not coming up 2 classes, he'd had 2 fights at 140+, and made Pac fight him at 144. When Pac is doing similar, it's called weight manipulation.

You're kidding right? Abregu can't hold Collazo's jockstrap

[HeroBando]

You're kidding right? Abregu can't hold Collazo's jockstrap

Collazo barely made top 10 ever, fringe contender by definition. He's pretty much done now, look back at his career, give me his top 3 wins.

[Fasttimes]

Collazo barely made top 10 ever, fringe contender by definition. He's pretty much done now, look back at his career, give me his top 3 wins.

I don't need to "look bacK" at anything, Collazo beating Berto up and getting robbed + almost KO'ing Hatton is better than anything Abregu has done.

[HeroBando]

I don't need to "look bacK" at anything, Collazo beating Berto up and getting robbed + almost KO'ing Hatton is better than anything Abregu has done.

You can't use Hatton, that's under discussion. So you've mustered up 1 close loss to a guy with no resume. Any good wins?

[vacon04]

So what does Cotto get for asking a much worse version of Marg for a CW?

JMM 3 was a 144 CW, advantage JMM. It's MUCH harder dropping 3 vs gaining 4, right?

So Pac moves up 7 times, and p4p Bradley is C+ for moving up to his 2nd? Where he's already fought before, and spent most of his amateur career above that. You're a hoot.

Pac vs Marquez 3:

Marquez was fighting at 135, so he had to move up 9 pounds while Pacquiao weighted 145 for his previous fight so no, no advantage for JMM at all.

[HeroBando]

Pac vs Marquez 3:

Marquez was fighting at 135, so he had to move up 9 pounds while Pacquiao weighted 145 for his previous fight so no, no advantage for JMM at all.

I was being facetious about advantage JMM. It's the standard riff on NSB, losing a lb is harder that going up a division.

But technically, JMM's previous fight was at 140, and he'd fought at 144 (or so he thought) before.

[bigsmoothh]

How high can that bar really be for Pac if in his last fight alone he got schooled by a smaller guy and is now rematching another smaller dude who already schooled him and this was after chasing a guy he was looking to weight drained only to end up ducking him. If anything, this bar is way to low for a "fighter of the decade".

good post,

[Fasttimes]

You can't use Hatton, that's under discussion. So you've mustered up 1 close loss to a guy with no resume. Any good wins?

You're trying too hard. It wasn't a close loss, he was robbed by Berto, the #3 welter in the world. Collazo had him rocked and everything, but Haymon got him the decision.


Now...

Abregu has done what, again?

[HeroBando]

You're trying too hard. It wasn't a close loss, he was robbed by Berto, the #3 welter in the world. Collazo had him rocked and everything, but Haymon got him the decision.


Now...

Abregu has done what, again?

You're trying too hard to create levels of fringe contenders. You came up with 1 good result, by no means a robbery, to a guy barely more legit than Dulorme at the time. If this guy is levels above the other, he'd have something to show for it in the end.