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  • Originally posted by ALG United View Post
    In the same link you posted, WADA said it is very easy for an athlete to blame contaminated meat for a positive result... But Morales was tested in three separate occasions and it all came back positive. In a span of almost three weeks and still yielded positive, it's not in low level...
    And what if he had been eating contaminated meat from the same facility? If Morales was indeed being truthful, I don't think it matters much if he tested once or three times positive. However, if he is telling lies, that is another thing entirely.

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    • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
      It is very unlikely that USADA would deliberately lie about a positive B sample being available. And not just lie to anyone, but to a governing body.
      I don't know what to call it then, mislead? How would you explain this away?

      The New York State Athletic Commission was blindsided on the Morales matter. The first notice it received came in a three-way telephone conversation with representatives of Golden Boy and USADA after the Thursday press conference. In that conversation, the commission was told there were “some questionable test results” for Morales but that testing of Morales’s “B” sample would not be available until after the fight.

      Then, on Friday (one day before the scheduled fight), Keith Idec revealed on BoxingScene.com that samples had been taken from Morales on at least three occasions. Final results from the samples taken on October 17th were not in yet. But both the “A” and “B” samples taken from Morales on October 3rd and October 10th had tested positive for Clenbuterol. In other words, Morales had tested positive for Clenbuterol four times.

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      • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
        And what if he had been eating contaminated meat from the same facility? If Morales was indeed being truthful, I don't think it matters much if he tested once or three times positive. However, if he is telling lies, that is another thing entirely.
        Wow everyone who wants to cheat should go to that particular facility then and eat all the meat that they can...

        Morales used to go to Big Bear mountain for training but in his last fight with Garcia he opted for Mexico... in that particular facility...

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        • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
          And what if he had been eating contaminated meat from the same facility? If Morales was indeed being truthful, I don't think it matters much if he tested once or three times positive. However, if he is telling lies, that is another thing entirely.
          If the facts are there, don't you think a third party should be the one to give him the "contaminated meat" waiver? The commission, in this case? All the more so since it's on their list of banned substances. As it is, it appears these facts were withheld from them.

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          • Some of the members in here:

            -Its okay for a roided JMM.
            -A close relationship of Golden Boy Promotions and USADA. The agency reporting directly to GBP instead of the state commission. Mayweather team and USADA didn't show any testing documents to the court as requested by Team Pacquiao. So, Mayweather decided to settled with a large sum of money. I know its only a rumor, but still..................
            -That Morales ate contaminated meat even though he tested positive a couple times already

            But when Crackheadweather family accuses Pac of taking illegal substances, the haters fell for it. Haters shouting Pac is on PEDs.
            Last edited by loui_ludwig; 11-22-2012, 08:27 PM.

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            • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
              If the facts are there, don't you think a third party should be the one to give him the "contaminated meat" waiver? The commission, in this case? All the more so since it's on their list of banned substances. As it is, it appears these facts were withheld from them.
              I think it's the responsibility of the testing agency to make conclusions as to the results. They are the experts. And it's up to the Commission to consider the results given by the experts and determine a course of action (penalty or no penalty, warning or no warning, etc).

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              • Originally posted by ALG United View Post
                Wow everyone who wants to cheat should go to that particular facility then and eat all the meat that they can...

                Morales used to go to Big Bear mountain for training but in his last fight with Garcia he opted for Mexico... in that particular facility...
                Wasn't it trace amounts of the substance? The change in training facilities carries no weight, very little to nothing at all. The only evidence of any relevance is the positive results.

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                • So anyone actually posted some real evidence or are we still going by rumors?

                  Why haven't the main media outlets covered this, its not exactly a small story, or is it cuz their is no evidence and it's all made up?

                  The media would have blown the lid off Floyd and gone in for the kill if there was evidence of foul play.

                  Pacfarts getting excited over a mediatakeout story
                  Last edited by FrankieBruno; 11-23-2012, 12:22 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by FrankieBruno View Post
                    So anyone actually posted some real evidence or are we still going by rumors?

                    Why haven't the main media outlets covered this, its not exactly a small story, or is it cuz their is no evidence and it's all made up?

                    The media would have blown the lid off Floyd and gone in for the kill if there was evidence of foul play.

                    Pacfarts getting excited over a mediatakeout story
                    what you fail to understand is that it didn't come from ordinary people spreading rumors. These are community of Ped experts spreading it. Big difference my friend. Emphasis on experts.

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                    • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
                      what you fail to understand is that it didn't come from ordinary people spreading rumors. These are community of Ped experts spreading it. Big difference my friend. Emphasis on experts.
                      There are no such thing as PED experts, stop talkin like a moron lmao

                      If it came from experts we'd see some concrete evidence, and the media outlets would have gone to work on Floyd and destroyed him overnight. They would have taken a huge **** on him and then flushed his career down the toilet

                      Fact is there are no experts, it's a false story and Pacfarts have gotten excited

                      Until we see some EVIDENCE and it's picked up by the main media then it cant be taken seriously.

                      pedexperts my arse lmao

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