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Originally posted by whirlwind View PostSomehow Mayweather and GBP found a way to shut up Montoya early this year but the latest scandal when GBP and USADA tried to cover up Morales test result re-ignited the story. If the GBP and USADA tried to cover up Morales test result, what makes you think they can't do this to the biggest star (Floyd) of the sport who paid them for it? This series of incidents happening this year is just a coincidence?
On May 20, 2012 , a rumor filtered through the
drug-testing community that Mayweather had
tested positive on three occasions for an illegal
performance-enhancing drug. (GBP threatened Montoya and told to shut up)
In late-May, Pacquiao’s attorneys heard the
rumor. On June 4, 2012 , they served document
demands and subpoenas on Mayweather,
Mayweather Promotions, Golden Boy and USADA
calling for the production of all documents that
related to PED testing of Mayweather for the
Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto
fights but then Mayweather, GBP and USADA quashed the motion from pacquiao's lawyers to have mayweather's USADA test records released.
Why the hell they did that unless they were hiding something?
On September 25, 2012 , All of the sudden, Mayweather, Oscar, GBP apologized to Pacquiao and said he is a great champion denying the PEDs allegation. They asked for a settlement to end the defamation case. Mayweather’s monetary settlement offer was “substantially more” than Pacquiao’s attorneys had expected it would be and an agreement in principle was reached soon afterward.
What is the mean reason Floyd all of the sudden asked for the settlement and paid Pacquiao more than Pacquiao 's attorneys had expected?
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Where is the source for this information, other than the writer and website as a whole???
Since when did statements without a source become fact??? Also, the key words throughout this entire article, is "rumor" and "supposed". If it was fact and they had any real proof or source that knew Floyd failed any tests, they would release it in a heart beat.
http://www.boxingscene.com/kizer-15-...mosley---27287
This is an article by Boxingscene where Kizer of the NSAC confirms that the USADA sent the results to him, and both were negative in Floyd-Mosley.
http://www.boxing insider.com/headli...-victor-ortiz/
Another article about the USADA releasing the testing results for Floyd-Ortiz coming back negative. These results can even found on their website.
http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweathe...-public--53910
Another article by Boxingscene, this was when the Mayweather-Cotto test results were released.
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Originally posted by sapaw View PostAre you stupid? so no one can stop the fight even the other guy tested positive on PED? do you know why they testing? to prevent the other to cheat and most importantly, to protect the fighters! so you telling me the commission cant stop the fight if they know that the other guy is on PED? its not about Floyd anymore, its about BOXING, so stop dick riding!
Problem is, Morales already failed twice earlier in the month and only 'till his third failed test was NYSAC notified, and GBP played the delay game to stall NYSAC from cancelling the fight.
If this is in fact true, then GBP and USADA just lost all credibility in regards to OST and Boxing.
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Originally posted by sapaw View PostAre you stupid? so no one can stop the fight even the other guy tested positive on PED? do you know why they testing? to prevent the other to cheat and most importantly, to protect the fighters! so you telling me the commission cant stop the fight if they know that the other guy is on PED? its not about Floyd anymore, its about BOXING, so stop dick riding!
They all put profit ahead of fairness. I'm not shocked.
Of course the commission SHOULD have stopped the fight. Of course they can. But do you think they would call off a multi million doallar production, lose HBO TV, refund all the tickets, pay the vendors for lost food, lose the parking revenue, because erik morales, who was only there to get beat up again, tested positive?
I don't think the commission in NYC would do that in this instance. Now Hauser has every right to point this out and should. It is a travesty that the fight went on. But I'm not surprised given the money that could have been lost.
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Originally posted by 4Corners View PostGolden Boy sent him a letter to either provide evidence or a source of Floyd failing those tests or said they'll take legal action against him. He couldn't provide one.
Where is the source for this information, other than the writer and website as a whole???
Since when did statements without a source become fact??? Also, the key words throughout this entire article, is "rumor" and "supposed". If it was fact and they had any real proof or source that knew Floyd failed any tests, they would release it in a heart beat.
http://www.boxingscene.com/kizer-15-...mosley---27287
This is an article by Boxingscene where Kizer of the NSAC confirms that the USADA sent the results to him, and both were negative in Floyd-Mosley.
http://www.boxing insider.com/headli...-victor-ortiz/
Another article about the USADA releasing the testing results for Floyd-Ortiz coming back negative. These results can even found on their website.
http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweathe...-public--53910
Another article by Boxingscene, this was when the Mayweather-Cotto test results were released.
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Originally posted by flipbjefrox View PostWhat your posting is irrelevant. They sent nsac the good test results but destroyed or given waiver to the ones he failed
You do know all this supposed info is coming from Gabriel Montoya, the same guy who started this several months back. And when Golden Boy told him they'll take legal actions unless he provides evidence or a source, he took down everything written by him. In his letter of response to Golden Boy, he straight up said he heard this from someone he knew, that knew someone else. That isn't evidence. That's either some random guy spouting bull, or basically....there is no source whatsoever.
So how can a website claim Floyd failed 3 tests, without providing one single source or one bit of evidence, and than pass it off as fact??? Tell me that one. And if there was a real source or evidence, you don't think they'd release that in a heart beat???
This is about as credible as the supposed email a member of Team Pac sent asking What if Manny tests positive??? Yeah that means not very credible.Last edited by 4Corners; 11-20-2012, 10:52 AM.
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Originally posted by 4Corners View PostReally??? If so, where is the source???
You do know all this supposed info is coming from Gabriel Montoya, the same guy who started this several months back. And when Golden Boy told him they'll take legal actions unless he provides evidence or a source, he took down everything written by him. In his letter of response to Golden Boy, he straight up said he heard this from someone he knew, that knew someone else. That isn't evidence. That's either some random guy spouting bull, or basically....there is no source whatsoever.
So how can a website claim Floyd failed 3 tests, without providing one single source or one bit of evidence, and than pass it off as fact??? Tell me that one. And if there was a real source or evidence, you don't think they'd release that in a heart beat???
This is about as credible as the supposed email a member of Team Pac sent asking What if Manny tests positive??? Yeah that means not very credible.
Maybe their sources got cold feet and the journalist was left hanging and had no choice but to drop the subject.
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Originally posted by 4Corners View PostGolden Boy sent him a letter to either provide evidence or a source of Floyd failing those tests or said they'll take legal action against him. He couldn't provide one.
Where is the source for this information, other than the writer and website as a whole???
Since when did statements without a source become fact??? Also, the key words throughout this entire article, is "rumor" and "supposed". If it was fact and they had any real proof or source that knew Floyd failed any tests, they would release it in a heart beat.
http://www.boxingscene.com/kizer-15-...mosley---27287
This is an article by Boxingscene where Kizer of the NSAC confirms that the USADA sent the results to him, and both were negative in Floyd-Mosley.
http://www.boxing insider.com/headli...-victor-ortiz/
Another article about the USADA releasing the testing results for Floyd-Ortiz coming back negative. These results can even found on their website.
http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweathe...-public--53910
Another article by Boxingscene, this was when the Mayweather-Cotto test results were released.
The Mayweather test results showed by USADA is just a piece of paper and can be easily conjured from the thin air. What Pacquiao’s attorneys was demanding on June 4, 2012 when they served document demands and subpoenas on Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions, Golden Boy and USADA calling for the production of all documents that related to PED testing of Mayweather for the Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto fights . But you know what they did?
We all know Mayweather wants to clean the sport right? and should willingly show all the related documents about the test result but guess what they did instead? They killed it permanently, quashed it. The funny thing right after that GBP and Mayweather put their tails inside their butts and apologized to Pacquiao then paid him more than enough to the damaged they caused.
These series of actions ring the bell my friend.Last edited by whirlwind; 11-20-2012, 11:05 AM.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostSapaw try to learn to read and comprehend without the floyd hate or manny love in your mind at every waking second.
They all put profit ahead of fairness. I'm not shocked.
Of course the commission SHOULD have stopped the fight. Of course they can. But do you think they would call off a multi million doallar production, lose HBO TV, refund all the tickets, pay the vendors for lost food, lose the parking revenue, because erik morales, who was only there to get beat up again, tested positive?
I don't think the commission in NYC would do that in this instance. Now Hauser has every right to point this out and should. It is a travesty that the fight went on. But I'm not surprised given the money that could have been lost.
which to you is bigger? Peterson vs Khan II / berto vs ORtiz II or Morales vs Garcia? PEterson and Bertos fight if not same level of Morales, its much bigger than Morales fight. But those fight were cancelled coz one fighter was tested positive! so your point?
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostSapaw try to learn to read and comprehend without the floyd hate or manny love in your mind at every waking second.
They all put profit ahead of fairness. I'm not shocked.
Of course the commission SHOULD have stopped the fight. Of course they can. But do you think they would call off a multi million doallar production, lose HBO TV, refund all the tickets, pay the vendors for lost food, lose the parking revenue, because erik morales, who was only there to get beat up again, tested positive?
I don't think the commission in NYC would do that in this instance. Now Hauser has every right to point this out and should. It is a travesty that the fight went on. But I'm not surprised given the money that could have been lost.
Hauser is merely saying that GBP and USADA withheld information and delayed the result of the B sample prior to the fight so NYSAC has no choice but to let the fight go on.
If GBP and USADA would've shared the earlier failed tests to NYSAC, the fight would've been definitely cancelled.
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