If PACQUIAO clearly beats Marquez on Dec. 8, Roach shouldn't get credit!

[woopwoop]

exactly, Roach used to be a good trainer before he got a huge ego and fame.

not sure about having a big ego, but i think he is a bit overrated. he looks good because he has a special fighter in Pacquiao.

[hectari]

not sure about having a big ego, but i think he is a bit overrated. he looks good because he has a special fighter in Pacquiao.

almost every trainer has pointed this out, even Roach credits Pacquiao for making him famous, so at least Roach knows it.

But Roach has never taken a fighter from nothing to something the way Emmanuel Steward has, Joe Goossen, Robert Garcia, and a couple of others have.

Pacquiao was already a champion who defeated the lineal Flyweight champion in Thailand without Roach in his corner.

I wonder why Pacman got rid of his old American trainer who helped guide him to that title and basically was with him from when he was a teen till he left to America.

I forgot that guys name but his first name was Rick I believe.

[whirlwind]

If Pacquiao beat Marquez now is because...

power of will 40%
speed 20%
punching power 15%
iron chin 15%
stamina 15%
skills 4%
Roach 1%

[PAC-BOY]

If Pacquiao beat Marquez now is because...

power of will 40%
speed 20%
punching power 15%
iron chin 15%
stamina 15%
skills 4%
Roach 1%

[T.Horton]

If Pacquiao beat Marquez now is because...

power of will 40%
speed 20%
punching power 15%
iron chin 15%
stamina 15%
skills 4%
Roach 1%

110%? i think I'll take Roach over you.

[LeG00N]

I'll think of an excuse to discredit the win......

[littlemac]

This fight is a joke and is a even bigger joke at 147.




This fight will be for the "Champion of The Decade" belt.

[LeG00N]

This fight is a joke and is a even bigger joke at 147.




This fight will be for the "Champion of The Decade" belt.

no it's a trophy

[JOM'S]

So he gets not credit if he wons but gets ****ted on if he loses

Makes sense

yup that is about it ... lolz

[Weebler I]

Would lol if Pac sparked JMM early and Roach won trainer of the year. The Flomo fury would be something to behold.