Is Marquez on steroids for this Pacquiao fight?

[megadeth]

Who cares about the serious health problems/side effects of steroid usage! Lets do it!

Ever hear of researching, reading books or asking questions, rather than just believing propaganda. Steroids and most PED's are pretty benign when it comes to health problems, when used properly. The CDC (Center for Disease Control) Anabolic Steroids kills 3 people per year compared to Tobacco 435,000 and Alcohol 75,000. It's not use that carries the serious problems, its abuse. The almost all the problems come from people who a) people are are informed and know what can happen from abusing steroids and yet don't care or b) uninformed people(such as yourself).

[joesaiditstrue]

I'm convinced that most professional athletes are using PED's. After watching quite a few videos of Victor Conte, I've learned that unless you're tested year round randomly by your own volition (like Donaire), it's incredibly easy to beat testing, even blood testing

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Marquez is doping

[miamike]

It came from the meat




or urine.

[Dr Rumack]

I'm convinced that most professional athletes are using PED's. After watching quite a few videos of Victor Conte, I've learned that unless you're tested year round randomly by your own volition (like Donaire), it's incredibly easy to beat testing, even blood testing

I know what you mean, it really does depend on the sport I think. Like if you're talking about track and field events, or even sports like swimming or cycling, the potential impact of a doping program is absolutely huge, as you can turn third rate athletes into Olympic gold medalists.

But if you're talking about a sport like soccer, where technical skill is so much more of a factor, well then you're never going to turn a second or third division player into a Lionel Messi or a Cristiano Ronaldo.

So in athletics, because raw physical ability is generally the sole factor in determining outcomes, the scale of the fraud is just way bigger. Giving EPO to high level footballers can obviously have a significant impact, but nowhere near as much as if you give EPO to a tour cyclist or a 10K runner. Lance Armstrong dropped out of his first Tour de France and finished 60th or 70th in his second, then he started doping and he wins it seven times in a row.

And that's what you have to think about when you get to a sport like boxing. It's so technically complex and so demanding of skill that you will never get the same massive distortions that you would get in those other sports.

That's not to say it's ok, or that it doesn't have a significant impact, of course EPO or testosterone could tip the balance in an evenly matched big fight. But no amount of drugs is ever going to give you JMM's timing, nor is it going to give you Floyd's ring intelligence, or Miguel Cotto's jab. These things are the products of technical excellence, great coaching, and experience, and they cannot be artificially manufactured.

And while none of that means that doping isn't an issue that needs to be tackled, it does in my opinion mean that doping is always going to be a bigger problem in some sports than others, and that great boxers for one cannot be produced by a laboratory.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Lets hope so..........

[Da Boxer]

Nah. I cant see him doing roids.

[Juof]

"the last time Marquez went up to 147 he looked like a fat mess" Where is the fat mess you speak of?

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[Ray*]

All team Pac has to do is ask for random drug testing for both fighters..

[New England]

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marquez worked with heredia/hernandez for that fight... that's where the speculation stems from, mainly. heredia is not only tied to PEDs, he's a notorious steroid dealer who has been brought up on charges by the government and worked as an informant to avoid prison.


here's what he looked like against floyd mayweather :

he's not flexing here, but you can see a night and day difference in the tone of his muscles and his bulk up top.

38 year old lightweights throughout the history of the sport have not made physical improvements like that. if heredia is clean he's a great coach. i serious doubt that he's clean.




just get rid of the space and you can see the link if you past it into your browser.

here's some info on heredia. he's on youtube buying steroids in mexico and injecting them into his stomach as well.

http://deadspin.com/angel-heredia/

[Larry the boss]

All team Pac has to do is ask for random drug testing for both fighters..

yep..............