Would Froch beat Ward in a UK rematch?

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  • -Kev-
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    #61
    Originally posted by !! Anorak
    It's come to something when myself and Kev are in agreement.

    This is what I don't comprehend about this topic. Pretty much all of us are in agreement that Ward won the fight by a comfortable majority.... yet the JUDGES had it a close fight (two of them at least, which is all that counts for a final card).

    If Froch had been able to just shade ONE more round (which wasn't impossible that night) then he would have been able to draw with Ward ON THE CARDS.
    Agreed.

    Also, it was 1 American judge, 1 Canadian judge, one UK judge. The UK judge had it 118-110 for Ward. That's about as weird as it gets.

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    • J-Smooth
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      #62
      I doubt froch would ever beat ward at any point in his career...ward is just on a different level...and lets not forget ward beat him with a broken hand

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      • sdcluser
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        #63
        Originally posted by mathed
        Froch beats him, likely by stoppage. If not by stoppage, it'll be a UD
        how so? Froch is not fast enough to catch up with Ward

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        • !! Anorak
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          #64
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          Agreed.

          Also, it was 1 American judge, 1 Canadian judge, one UK judge. The UK judge had it 118-110 for Ward. That's about as weird as it gets.
          Yeah, I do want to say that UK judging isn't as bad as they make out, but when I've scored Froch-Dirrell 7-5 for Andre every time I've seen it, I have to shut up. But the UK did exonerate itself a little that night.

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          • !! Anorak
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            #65
            Originally posted by $ j-210 $
            lets not forget ward beat him with a broken hand
            It'd be pretty hard not to... I read that 100 times every time a thread on this subject is made.

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            • The Gambler1981
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              #66
              Well I would say no, I don't think Froch is really capable of beating Ward anywhere.

              Still Froch to win only needs to win 7 rounds (maybe 6) on two of the judges card, and with the subjective nature of judging fights it is not really impossible as long as Froch can limit Ward's effective offense.You just never know what the judges will see in a tough to score fight.

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              • mathed
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                #67
                Originally posted by sdcluser
                how so? Froch is not fast enough to catch up with Ward
                Froch will be on another level this time. He was sluggish and up tight...in front of his own crowd, he will be a monster like he was against Bute.

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                • TX_BOXNG
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                  #68
                  Froch couldnt beat him in the U.K. even if he had a third arm with a hand!!!!!

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                  • Tmann400
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by mathed
                    Froch beats him, likely by stoppage. If not by stoppage, it'll be a UD
                    You have GOT to be trolling, mathed. You're a good poster, and I'm well aware you have a blatant dislike for Ward, but this?.....This, is beyond pushing it. Just stop man, you're literally on the cusp of trolling with this blatant hate. That's the equivalent of me saying that Chavez beats Martinez in a rematch, or Pavlik would etc. That pisses you off doesn't it? It should, because it's horses.hit, just like what you said was horses.hit. I'm a Froch fan, but he was utterly outclassed for at LEAST 9 of 12 rounds.

                    And, as I mentioned before, their fight may have taken place in America, but Ward was 3000 miles away from his home state, along with a 3 hour time difference AND a proven broken hand, he was WAY out of his comfort zone, what does the fight happening in England change, dude? Seriously, answer me that, mathed. It's a complete joke. You're better then these idiotic comments, bro.

                    Ever since Ward walked over Dawson and creeped up on Martinez' spot on the P4P lists, you've been getting more sour then ever when the name Ward is mentioned. They're both great fighters who should at the very least be ranked evenly given the fact that their resumes are roughly equal and the way they've dominated opposition. You could even argue Ward's resume is better then Martinez' when factoring in how many more fights Martinez has and how much Ward's accomplished in a short 26 fight career, but that's an entirely different discussion that I could care less to debate.

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                    • Weebler I
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Tmann400
                      CCRS. (Conveniently Can't Remember ****), seriously though, although the fight wasn't in Froch's backyard, it wasn't in Ward's backyard either, so YES he was out of his comfort zone when you consider Atlantic City, NJ is roughly 3000 miles away from California, and there's a 3 hour time difference. So, this bulls.hit that people keep spewing that Ward's never been out of his comfort zone is literally a boldfaced lie
                      Slight difference between fighting in AC and fighting in front of a rabid Nottingham crowd cheering Froch's every punch wouldn't you say?

                      I think Ward probably wins regardless but it's definitely going to be a tougher fight in the UK (or Denmark for Kessler).

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