Is there not a case for Wladamir to be p4p#1?

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  • yoz
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    #11
    Originally posted by eurochamp
    He is the most dominate fighter in the sport right now,no close fights,he doesn't get knocked down,he wins by ko,has multiple title defense's. These are all the things other fighters get praised for yet he gets no credit?
    Oh god, not another!

    He was knocked down multiple times by Sam Peter, remember?


    IMO, Ward is P4P no. 1.

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    • JM1
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      #12
      Originally posted by eurochamp
      He is the only current boxer to hold the WBA,IBF,WBO,IBO AND RING and have multiple defenses.He has dominated his division for over half a decade now and wins mostly by ko,he is active.why are fighters like Martinez,who has a recent loss to Williams and has been floored alot lately,Juan Manuel Marquez who was dominated by Floyd and lost to Manny. How can they be ranked higher then Wladamir? Now people want to rank Ward higher cause they say he won the super 6? Wladamir has cleaned his division out so why does Ward,Martinez and Juan get ranked higher?
      Not a chance. Just the fact that the brothers are listed on the P4P list is wrong. P4P was originally meant to pay tribute to the lower weights. Having them there beats its purpose

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      • Capaedia
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        #13
        If you value dominance of one's division highly enough, sure you could.

        Unfortunately he and Vitali have had to split the wins between them, Wlad has taken the lion share of them but he would probably look better with the likes of Arreola, Adamek, Solis and Chisora on his resume.

        Now what I just said is a testament to how weak the division is. I have no doubt Wlad would be successful in any era, but he had the misfortune to come along in this one. He is a great athlete and keeps himself in shape. He just hasn't had anyone to match up with (it would be nice if a Vitali fight was plausible, but it isn't and I'm okay with that)

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        • Doctor_Tenma
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          #14
          Originally posted by eurochamp
          He is the most dominate fighter in the sport right now,no close fights,he doesn't get knocked down,he wins by ko,has multiple title defense's. These are all the things other fighters get praised for yet he gets no credit?
          He's Top 10 without a doubt, maybe Top 5 like #5, mainly because of how dominant he's been and he does posses good skills. I still can't put him over Floyd, Ward, Martinez, Manny or Donaire, not even Carl Froch who has accomplished a great deal and won fights most picked him to lose, I like Wlad but it's extremely tough to make a case for him.

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          • FightScorer
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            #15
            If a Prime Lennox or even a Young Lennox was around today, Wladimir will just be another KO victim.

            I looked through his resume and his older Brother's. 90% of their 'wins' wont have made sparring partners for Lennox in the late 90's.

            IN FACT. IN FACT. Here's something interesting.


            A PRIME SHANNON BRIGGS was brutally knocked out by Lewis around 96-97. ALMOST A DECADE LATER, a shot fat and zombie version of Briggs went 12 rounds against Vitali.

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            • eurochamp
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              #16
              Originally posted by FightScorer
              Hey you're british.. is Wladimir the one who got his face cut open by a 38 year old fat under trained semi retired Lewis? Or is he the one who quit against a middleweight?
              Neither,Vitali got cut by Lewis,that can happen to anyone,fact is he was busting Lewis up and NEVER got a rematch

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                #17
                Originally posted by yoz
                Oh god, not another!

                He was knocked down multiple times by Sam Peter, remember?


                IMO, Ward is P4P no. 1.
                That was years ago and most of the knockdowns were from rabbit punches,Ward has been floored by nobodies

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by eurochamp
                  Neither,Vitali got cut by Lewis,that can happen to anyone,fact is he was busting Lewis up and NEVER got a rematch
                  I just watched the fight.

                  Lennox was 260 pounds dude... 260. Lol. That's Chris Arreloa fat. Also Vitali was eating straight right hands in the 4th 5th and 6th like a slut eat ****s. He was also hit with an upper cut that made him held on for the ENTIRE 6TH ROUND.

                  Lewis was clearly winning the 2nd half of that fight and he was slow as ****.

                  Zombie Lennox tko6 Prime Vitali. Deal with it.

                  260 pounds of whale blubber old man corpse walking Lennox Lewis who can't even BREATH right was tko6ing PRIME VITALI.

                  Lewis was out of breath heading INTO THE RING, he was so out of shape and fat. He had to SUCK IN his stomach for the interview so people can't see the ROLLS of blubber because even he was embarrassed. THAT'S HOW out of shape and pathetic Lennox was.

                  Zombie Lewis >then Prime VK

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                  • Doctor_Tenma
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JM1
                    Not a chance. Just the fact that the brothers are listed on the P4P list is wrong. P4P was originally meant to pay tribute to the lower weights. Having them there beats its purpose
                    I thought P4P was built off of "If [insert name here] was as big as [insert name here] he would beat him". If that's the case then no one is restricted from being listed.

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                    • eurochamp
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by FightScorer
                      If a Prime Lennox or even a Young Lennox was around today, Wladimir will just be another KO victim.

                      I looked through his resume and his older Brother's. 90% of their 'wins' wont have made sparring partners for Lennox in the late 90's.

                      IN FACT. IN FACT. Here's something interesting.


                      A PRIME SHANNON BRIGGS was brutally knocked out by Lewis around 96-97. ALMOST A DECADE LATER, a shot fat and zombie version of Briggs went 12 rounds against Vitali.
                      Please show me where Briggs was fat,please i'll wait,and Briggs went to the hospital to get his face repaired after that fight and hasn't fought since.

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