what was/is more effective in taking away from ppv numbers?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Illegal boxes such as the ones from the 90s, or streams?

[-Kev-]

They are almost the same. Every one has internet access nowadays. Not everybody had the illegal box back then, a lot of people were afraid to have them. Every one has access to illegal streams, millions of people.

I'd still say they're the same though. Chavez Jr-Martinez 500k now, would have been 500k in the 90s with illegal boxes, hell I think it would have been actually been a bit more. I'd say 700-800k. Boxing was more popular back then. You know how many people stream Chavez-Martinez? I'd take a guess that it would have been around 1.5Million PPVs if every one bought the fight in the US.

[Vasyl’s dad]

They are almost the same. Every one has internet access nowadays. Not everybody had the illegal box back then, a lot of people were afraid to have them. Every one has access to illegal streams, millions of people.

I'd still say they're the same though. Chavez Jr-Martinez 500k now, would have been 500k in the 90s with illegal boxes, hell I think it would have been actually been a bit more. I'd say 700-800k. Boxing was more popular back then. You know how many people stream Chavez-Martinez? I'd take a guess that it would have been around 1.5Million PPVs if every one bought the fight in the US.

Many people have net access but very few know what a stream is. The average user has no clue what a stream is. The sports fanatic, yea. But a casual fan, nah.

[-Kev-]

Even people who are technology challenged[usually older people] know that they can watch events on the internet.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Even people who are technology challenged[usually older people] know that they can watch events on the internet.

Doesn't mean they know what a stream is though. That's the difference. Plus, with streams, the quality is usually **** compared to what you got with an illegal box. The box had the same exact quality as the actual paid channel. Stream, far from it, especially with a large event fight.