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  • Originally posted by rasdun View Post
    of course those fights did poorly - thats my point. bhop aint a PPV attraction whereas Pac averages over 1 mil PPV buys per fight. why even compare the two. I was comparing Pac and floyd bc their numbers are similar: Pac got well over 1 mil PPV buys for Marquez, Cotto and Marquez III, a little under 1 mil for bradley bc he was a b side with little draw.
    cmon- 1 lb isnt gonna make a difference. to say a fighetr was "drained" when he was 1 lb less than his prior fight is nothin but /bs excuse makin.
    and - believe me if Pac agreed to the cutoff floyd wouldv had another excuse back then, he always does - once Pac agrees to steroid testin, then all of a sudden purse is an issue. Pac agrees to 55-45 - Pac "lost" to Bradley so he's worth even less. there will ALWAYS be an excuse. If he fought Martinez at 154 then I'd admit Im wrong. but Floyd doesnt want a challenege - that couldnt be more obvious. do any of u floyd defenders really believe that floyd cares about challenging himself? of course not - the easiest fight for the most amt of $ for MONEY - smart business bc most fans buy all his fights, but terrible for boxing fans who wanna see great fights.
    lastly - read my message above and learn about boxing business. arum has nothin to do wit floyds take if its 55-45, arums $ comes from Pacs 45%- thats how it works. floyd would pay Haymon, ellerbe, his people from his 55


    Hopkins fights with Jermaine Taylor and Winky did well on PPV and neither of those guys are big Draws.And Pacquiao PPV numbers for the 3rd Marquez fights and the Bradlley were not released by HBO.They were only released by Arum whose a known B,Ser.

    And in the first negotiations Floyd offered Pacquiao 50 percent and a 14 day cutoff on testing which was more then generous cause Pac taking a 14 day test gives him a better chance at cheating the test then a random testing And Pac did not deserve 50 percent of the earnings but Pac is the one who turned it down claiming taking blood make him weak even though he has tattoos and even though he took a aids test a day before sparring for a Pacquiao fight and it was reported he looked sharp in training.


    And Floyd is the one that moved up to 154 twice even though he`s not a 154 pounder putting himself at risk fighting bigger guys while Pacquiao weight drains them to get an advantage.

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    • Originally posted by leonthegee View Post
      Zab was on the books before he lost to Baldomir. Corely was a welcome to the JWW division fight.
      Dude, I'm not sure where you've been, but Pac's been on the books for the last 4 years LMAO

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      • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
        We all know Floyd is a hypocrite~ he will say whatever when the situation suits him. Plus these words and words like them get people real heated whenever he does it. With no real news it is kind of a good way to keep people talking about him especially when you consider his popularity is in large part based on people being angry at him.
        Maybe you're right. Because this is exactly how I felt when he pulled this schit in 08 with Cotto.

        Him and Ellerbe said "Cotto's fan base wasn't big enough" or some schit like that.

        I was like GTFOH.

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        • Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
          This is some bull**** from Mayweather.

          WTF was Zab Judah? He took that fight no problem.

          What about Chop Chop Corely after he loss to Judah; he fought Corley no problem?

          Cotto's status was nothing in May 2012 compared to what it was before he loss to Margarito. In fact, the only reason he made the Cotto fight was because the Pac fight fell through. Compared to 2008, that was "THE" only fight the fans wanted; instead he retired and opted to negotiate a 2nd fight with DLH.

          Man GTFOH lol Mayweather is on some other schit right now.
          FLoyd never said he did`nt want 55% percent solely cause Pac lost,Floyd insinuated that Pac lost and that he earns more then Pac in fights so he deserves more then 55%.Read the entire article on fighthype as a oppose to reading quotes that are taken out of context.

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          • Originally posted by El Gallo Negro! View Post
            You and other Floyd stans 2007 - "belts don't matter".
            What belt are you referring to? Returning from "retirement" in 2009 was the only time Mayweather didn't fight for one since what, moving up to 147 in 05?

            As mentioned the JMM fight was a disgrace because a shot, retired, fat ass Floyd didn't make weight and was cherry picking on a LW at WW... This was a disgrace and was a fight I did not purchase. What was more of a disgrace is pac doing the same even when we all knew JMM had no business at WW. Funny how everyone forgets the Pac is "too small" at WW now that he's forcing these guys up to him...

            Keep on trying though. You know damn well Pac is looking bad with his **** selection of cherry picked opponents. Like always though, I blame Bob. However Pac didn't have to hide behind him by extending his contract. He could have done what Cotto did.... We all witnessed how easy that was to make. Just like it was easy for Pac to fight Mosley when Mosley signed with TR. Or was that just because Mosley was shot?
            Last edited by WESS; 10-31-2012, 03:35 PM.

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            • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
              We all know Floyd is a hypocrite~ he will say whatever when the situation suits him. Plus these words and words like them get people real heated whenever he does it. With no real news it is kind of a good way to keep people talking about him especially when you consider his popularity is in large part based on people being angry at him.
              Mannys numbers are declining. You guys should all go out and kill yourself if you cant even admit the obvious. Manny vs Bradley 9 hundo. Manny vs Marquez will probably be less than that because most of the Mayweather haters have moved on from Manny. And that was half of his fanbase.

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              • Originally posted by boxingfeind View Post
                FLoyd never said he did`nt want 55% percent solely cause Pac lost,Floyd insinuated that Pac lost and that he earns more then Pac in fights so he deserves more then 55%.Read the entire article on fighthype as a oppose to reading quotes that are taken out of context.
                dude Floyd is ducking pac plain and simple
                its like I stated before this fight will happen on May 3 2014 and no one will give a ship

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                • Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
                  Maybe you're right. Because this is exactly how I felt when he pulled this schit in 08 with Cotto.

                  Him and Ellerbe said "Cotto's fan base wasn't big enough" or some schit like that.

                  I was like GTFOH.
                  Floyd asked Arum for 10 million to fight Cotto Arum offered Floyd 7 mil so Floyd turned it down.And Floyd later said on Espn in a inteview that Cotto needs to build up his fanbase,leave Bob Arum then the fight can happen.And that`s exactly what happened.And in 2008 Floyd and Arum was suing each other so that`s another reason the fight did`nt happen and this year leading up to the Floyd /Cotto fight Cotto said he never pushed for a fight with Floyd back then.

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                  • Originally posted by leonthegee View Post
                    Zab was on the books before he lost to Baldomir. Corely was a welcome to the JWW division fight.
                    wrong. the zab fight was null in void the second he lost to baldomir. floyd the nice guy he is offered zab the fight again for less money. if corley was a welcome to the JWW division what was the bruseles fight? a look at me JWW division i'm fighting bums fight?

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                    • In response to deleted thread that touched on race;

                      I am 3rd genration African (cameroon), I use to like Floyd just because he is black just like most his fans still hanging on to his jock are doing just because of race. I am not an idiot though. I do not get up and believe just because " FLOYD SAID' something. These fools take it as gospel the moment Floyd opens his mouth. Floyd is full of ****. He has proven it time and time again. You can only defend that bs too long before idiocy becomes you. I don't see any of the more intelligent Floyd fans posting or defending him no more, why is that?

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