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  • #51
    Originally posted by Ravens Fan View Post
    My views. Maybe Vitali realized he is older then he thought after the Chisora fight. Maybe he realized he physically can't do it anymore. After all Haye was recently explaining why he only fights once a year. And it was because of what boxing is doing to his body and he is 11 years younger then Vitali. Or maybe Vitali just changed his mind and decided he doesn't want the fight and he will now go off into retirement and start spending his $70 million. Or just maybe he was waiting for the election to be over and he will sign to fight Haye next week. But one thing I am sure of it is not because Vitali is somehow afraid of Haye. After all if I was an elite 6'8" heavyweight and had watched Haye fight in the division I sure as hell wouldn't be afraid of him.
    This comment is way better than the ones you and me used to go back and forth about how Vitali wasnt the reason the fight wasnt happening. I have tons of respect, because a true fans will condemn the person who deserves it. Some guys on here try to find ways to blame Haye. Haye aint ducking this time its the other way around. You get props from me because you used to take me through it about this shiet! Respect bruh-bruh.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
      The guy coming off THREE consecutive losses? The guy who was beaten by Tyson Fury? The guy who never had a single decent win in his pro career?

      In David Haye's own words: Chisora is a "loser"
      Who cares about anything Chisora has ever done. Its all about what he did against the fighter Haye is trying to fight. Chisora dragged that guy into some muddy territories. Haye was a showstopper and in a rare form against Chisora. So when is the fight happening?

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      • #53
        Originally posted by DavidHaye'sToe View Post
        After having read your comments Andrew,I'd say it's near on impossible to have a civilised debate regarding boxing with you,you've really brought nothing to the debate except poorly wrote quips and crappy replies,you try to use subtle digs invoking humour.I dread to imagine how many crusts of dried semon are present on your keyboard.
        Freedom's. ALT ^.

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        • #54
          Haye can make money by himself if he was more active, its pretty impressive that he is the draw he is with his very thin resume at HW and inactivity. I mean the guy basically talked his way into a fight for the legit HW title of the world and got a great deal out of it too.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
            Not much, but Manuel Charr wouldn't have been KOed by age light heavyweight 40 Carl Thompson or knocked down by super middleweight Lolenga Mock.
            Didn't Manuel Charr labour to victory over Danny Williams, only recently?

            Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
            Chisora wasn't the same after being hit for 36 rounds by three giant heavyweights: Fury, Helenius, and Vitali. Haye got their leftover.
            Man, you're so full of ****. When Chisora was matched-up with Vitali, he was a 'dangerous' opponent who had been robbed against Helenius. In the build-up to Haye-Chisora, you talked-up Chisora's chances, too. But after Haye, Chisora suddenly became a bum, or was shot.

            Why can't we have more neutrals in this place, seriously? It's all Klitschko/Haye fan boys.
            Last edited by yoz; 10-30-2012, 12:43 PM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by yoz View Post
              Why can't we have more neutrals in this place, seriously? It's all Klitschko/Haye fan boys.
              Straight up one of the biggest problems on this forum. They say they're neutral but they're always pushing an agenda. Even when you take a neutral stance on something you're pushed into one of the categories.

              A lot of it is down to ignorance and lack of knowledge, which is cool, educate yourself. But they can't debate so it turns into insults or just absolutely spectacular comments like Freedom's regarding Haye's loss to Thompson - like that has any bearing on anything.

              There are people on other forums with a plethora of knowledge but must be put off residing here with this atmosphere...

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              • #57
                Originally posted by D-MiZe View Post
                Straight up one of the biggest problems on this forum. They say they're neutral but they're always pushing an agenda. Even when you take a neutral stance on something you're pushed into one of the categories.

                A lot of it is down to ignorance and lack of knowledge, which is cool, educate yourself. But they can't debate so it turns into insults or just absolutely spectacular comments like Freedom's regarding Haye's loss to Thompson - like that has any bearing on anything.

                There are people on other forums with a plethora of knowledge but must be put off residing here with this atmosphere...
                I agree. I've been known to push the Haye agenda, but only when guys like Freedom post as if the klitschkos fell down from heaven and entertained us all. Whilst Haye is nothing but a bum who only fights shot fighters (when Chisora was seen as a serious and worthy challenger before and after the vitali fight). But when they are laying it out there like that, it's easy to give it back like that. Unfortunately.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Andrew5550 View Post
                  I agree. I've been known to push the Haye agenda, but only when guys like Freedom post as if the klitschkos fell down from heaven and entertained us all. But when they are laying it out there like that, it's easy to give it back like that. Unfortunately.
                  This. It's why I just troll them back.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
                    Not much, but Manuel Charr wouldn't have been KOed by age light heavyweight 40 Carl Thompson or knocked down by super middleweight Lolenga Mock.

                    Chisora wasn't the same after being hit for 36 rounds by three giant heavyweights: Fury, Helenius, and Vitali. Haye got their leftover.

                    Haye has not done enough to earn a title shot. Vitali is mandated will fight the winner of Stiverne-Arreola if he doesn't retire. Haye needs to get back in line.
                    And Haye wouldn't have quit against Chris Byrd who has no punching power whatsoever @ heavy, & whom started his career @ middleweight. This happened while Vitali was in his Prime. Every time Vitlai doesn't perform great he has an excuse and gets a pass. Dr. robbed him agains't Lennox, bum shoulder agains't byrd and chisora, but other fighters have an excuse and get bashed! Like some posters have said, this has no bearings and nothing to do with this fight!!
                    Last edited by Nahshon Israel; 10-30-2012, 04:29 PM.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by D-MiZe View Post
                      Haye could make a lot more than the Klitschkos combined if he wanted to.

                      Not only would attract a lot of attention over here, the Americans would really take to him too. He should've pursued fights with the American contenders whilst remaining active and he'd be rolling in it now.
                      This^^^^^.

                      Haye is his own worst enemy. He is not nearly active enough.

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