Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: Haye is a Small ****house, I'll Slap Bellew!

[UglyPug]

Im looking at styles not resumes. Besides, Gaye's resume is better than anyones you just mentioned.

Solis is the only other fighter there who may cause some problems but he doesn't punch nearly as hard as Gaye. His combination of speed+power is simply not in any other heavyweight around.

I'm most definitely looking at styles too (none of hte guys I mentioned have better resumes than haye, and haye's resume is ****).

But moreover, I'm looking at skill-set, and ability. Haye has no stamina, and no chin. None. No ability to fight on the inside. None. . . Haye really doesn't even have a good defense. His only defense is his feet, which are fairly quick, and enable him to dictate range. Vitali would pound him all night. Haye would wing a few shots in every now and then, and catch Vitali, but he wouldn't phase Vitali. . Once Haye realized this, he would go in full retreat mode, and fight Vitali like he did Valuev. .

If he wasn't aggressive against valuev, you think he'd be against Vitali?! Look how slow Valuev is. Hell, Valuev would be classified as a legal cripple/handicap in most western countries, and be eligible for e lifetime pension.. LOL, haye could barely hit a bloody pensioner!!!


Pulev has the style to beat both Klitsckos: A hard hitting boxer/puncher with strong fundamentals, good stamina, chin, and good enough defense. He can get inside, or jab on the outside. Mitchell also has a blend of speed, and power to hurt the Klitschkos, and unlike Haye, Mitchell is aggressive, and will press the fight on the INSIDE. . Haye is USELESS on the inside, another dynamic needed to be able to beat the Klitschkos.

[UglyPug]

Lol, actually, despite only boxing pro for a few years, with like 16 fights, Pulev does have a better resume than Haye. .

LOL. . sad. . .

[LacedUp]

LOL David Haye fans are such a joke, just like their fighter.

Haye had a decent run at Cruiserweight against a bunch of nobodies. Mormeck is nothing, neither is Enzo Mc. his career at HW is HUGE a joke.

Valuev lost the Chagaev and Holyfield before he fought Haye. He was a joke of a champion, that fight was also garbage.

Ruiz was way past his prime, Haye simply sent him to retirement.

Fraudley Embarrison....

Chisora, already got whooped by Vitali.

So who did he beat at HW? His best fight at HW he lost in a lop-sided decision to little brother.

Nothing you are saying makes sense. Every time I see you post here I wonder if you believe the rubbish that comes out. Haye beat the biggest HW champ in history in his 3rd HW fight? Not bad for a cruiserweight eh? Sure, Harrison was a stinker - but Haye promised he would KO him within 3 and did. Easy to say that about Ruiz, but Haye still ducked him for the first time in 16 years and did it in 45 seconds. That fight is still the best title HW fight there has been in years. Everyone got excited about Haye - Chisora, it's only haters like yourself who predicted a Chisora win who b1tches because he put on a show and blasted the so-called iron chinned chisora out in 5. Something that Vitali couldn't do in 12. If you don't like him, don't watch him. But wait ... we all know you will.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I'm most definitely looking at styles too (none of hte guys I mentioned have better resumes than haye, and haye's resume is ****).

But moreover, I'm looking at skill-set, and ability. Haye has no stamina, and no chin. None. No ability to fight on the inside. None. . . Haye really doesn't even have a good defense. His only defense is his feet, which are fairly quick, and enable him to dictate range. Vitali would pound him all night. Haye would wing a few shots in every now and then, and catch Vitali, but he wouldn't phase Vitali. . Once Haye realized this, he would go in full retreat mode, and fight Vitali like he did Valuev. .

If he wasn't aggressive against valuev, you think he'd be against Vitali?! Look how slow Valuev is. Hell, Valuev would be classified as a legal cripple/handicap in most western countries, and be eligible for e lifetime pension.. LOL, haye could barely hit a bloody pensioner!!!


Pulev has the style to beat both Klitsckos: A hard hitting boxer/puncher with strong fundamentals, good stamina, chin, and good enough defense. He can get inside, or jab on the outside. Mitchell also has a blend of speed, and power to hurt the Klitschkos, and unlike Haye, Mitchell is aggressive, and will press the fight on the INSIDE. . Haye is USELESS on the inside, another dynamic needed to be able to beat the Klitschkos.

Haye was able to make Wladimir miss with the vast majority of his punches. Vitali is a lot slower of foot and hand than his younger brother.

He won't be aggressive. Being aggressive might win you fans amongst ******s who are impressed by dumbasses like Adamek who just stand and eat punches all night

[Enzo Mc is SHIT]

Haye is a 210lb heavyweight in a 230lb era, unfortunately. He's done well.

[UglyPug]

Haye was able to make Wladimir miss with the vast majority of his punches. Vitali is a lot slower of foot and hand than his younger brother.

He won't be aggressive. Being aggressive might win you fans amongst ******s who are impressed by dumbasses like Adamek who just stand and eat punches all night

No he wasn't. Wladimir made him eat pancakes all night with that jab. Wladimir himself is not aggressive, but is very accurate, and deadly with each punch he throws.

You have to be aggressive if you want to beat Vitali, though (Wladimir too). You can't just sit back and try to pick shots off, he'll pump that up-jab in your face, and chest all round long. He pumps that jab 40+ times a round. Vitali is very active.

He won't be able to outpoint Vitali, nor will he able to KO him. . So that leaves us with another valuev-performance. . Except unlike Valuev, Vitali will be throwing, and landing much more. ..

Haye vs. Vitali - DO NOT WANT. . . I would like to see Haye fight somebody more on his own skill level, though. Or a young, hungry, undefeated HW. Let him fight Pulev, Mitchell, or even Arreola, Fury, or Price. Then he will earn a shot against Vitali. . . If he can get past these guys.

[Hayehammer]

Fury first has to stop running from price! when he fights price and beats him, Then he really can start talking abut david haye! Fury has done nothing so far besides beat a 260 pound chisora!
If chisora and fury would meet again now i would bet my money on chisora easy!

[UglyPug]

Haye is a 210lb heavyweight in a 230lb era, unfortunately. He's done well.

Haye is about 220 pounds @ 8-10% body fat, @ 6'3''. This is a fair sized HW even in this era. He'll lose 5-7 pounds training so hard, but he's naturally a 220-225 pound guy. . .

Once you get over 200 pounds, size differential isn't as crucial. . Especially when you're basically all muscle like Haye. Then you got Arreola, who is 235-240 pounds (in shape), but he's also about 25-30% body fat. Bryant Jennigs is 6'2'' 220, but he's also 8-10% body fat. . . Pulev is 245-250, but around 18-20% body fat.


And LOL x 1000 @ "haye doing well. . . " What an impressive resume he's had! LOLOLOL, his best win is Enzo MAC N CHEESE! They very man YOUR PROFILE MOCKS!! bwhhwhaha, oh, the irony.

[UglyPug]

Fury first has to stop running from price! when he fights price and beats him, Then he really can start talking abut david haye! Fury has done nothing so far besides beat a 260 pound chisora!
If chisora and fury would meet again now i would bet my money on chisora easy!

HAhahahahaha, and what exactly has Haye done at heavyweight?

Fury isn't far behind Haye's resume. .

If Fury hasn't earned a shot at Haye, then Haye DEFINITELY hasn't earned a shot at Vitali.

Fury/Haye are much closer to each other in terms of ability, than Haye/Vitali are.

[jknightx]

Haye fought Mormeck (then unified champ), Fragomeni (undefeated), Enzo (WBO champ), Barrett (needed a solid win), Valuev (Champ), Ruiz (mandatory), Audley (OK that was crap) and Chisora who gave Vitali a pretty darn hard fight. You cannot excuse Klitskho's opponents. They are almost all crap and they have never delivered a good fight.

I hate to get in the middle of this but you have a few staright. Ruiz was never a great fighter and was 38 almost 39 when Haye fought him and had not beat a decent fighter in 3 years. Value was a terrible champ who was protected .He still lost to Chagaev who Wlad soundly defeated. Most people also felt he lost to Holyfield who was well past it. Barrett was semi retired and had not had a good win in years.(and was soundly deated by klitschko years back). Chisora against Vitali was actually in shape(first time ever) and Vitali had a seprated shoulder by3rd round and still beat him easily .Haye was a very good Cruiser weight,but as a heavy weight he was only just another contender fighting past it heavy weights while trying to get a shot at the title.And Wlad and Vitali (if you check the records the brothers have fought more undefeated fighters than Haye. reguardless of what you think about them they did beat more undefeated fighters. Haye may well be a good heavy weight,but we cannot know because he avoided most of the top fighters in the heavy weight division.