Comments Thread For: Ricky Hatton on Near Suicide: I Had a Knife at My Wrists!

[panicchaser]

Yeah cos he seriously wanted people to do that. I didn't know Aussies were as bad as Yanks at recognising irony/sarcasm.

I'm an American living IN Australia. And i can sit here and clown you on the transparency of your bland sarcasm, or the context in which you THINK you presented/understand the word 'irony', but you're light work and boring as heo!!

[panicchaser]

I guess it is how you look at it. I personally believe that addiction is a disease. And I have first hand knowledge of the power of addiction.

I agree. Addiction IS a disease... plagued by 'choice'. So what we need to do is exterminate the 'choice' epidemic before it spreads rite? I mean... does that even sound right to you?

All fighters go through a full physical to make sure they are both physically ANd mentally competent. Otherwise, these fights would not take off.

You can dispute it by saying Mike Tyson bit Holyfields ear, but that wasn't a mental issue, it was an 'emotional' reaction. Holyfield kept smakkin' his head into Tyson and ref wouldn't call it, so out of anger and frustration, Tyson bit him.

I truly believe Hattons self induced issues are emotional, NOT mental. If it were mental and he was ruled incompetent, then what business would he have of coming bakk to the sport? No. Hatton's issue is merely a case of 'low self-esteem.' Honestly, if i didn't care about these boxers, i wouldn't sport that signature at the bottom of my statements.

I think we ALL have first knowledge of the power of 'choice!' HOW we use it bEFORE 'addiction' even comes into question, is what's important!

Choice stays!!

[Ravens Fan]

I agree. Addiction IS a disease... plagued by 'choice'. So what we need to do is exterminate the 'choice' epidemic before it spreads rite? I mean... does that even sound right to you?

All fighters go through a full physical to make sure they are both physically ANd mentally competent. Otherwise, these fights would not take off.

You can dispute it by saying Mike Tyson bit Holyfields ear, but that wasn't a mental issue, it was an 'emotional' reaction. Holyfield kept smakkin' his head into Tyson and ref wouldn't call it, so out of anger and frustration, Tyson bit him.

I truly believe Hattons self induced issues are emotional, NOT mental. If it were mental and he was ruled incompetent, then what business would he have of coming bakk to the sport. No. Hatton's issue is merely case of 'low self-esteem.' Honestly, if i didn't care about these boxers, i wouldn't sport that signature at the bottom of my statements.

I think we ALL have first knowledge of the power of 'choice!' HOW we use it bEFORE 'addiction' even comes into question, is what's important!

Choice stays!!

As far as Ricky is concerned I have no idea if he has addiction problems or mental problems. That is for him to decide and him alone and I won't speculate. As far as addiction is concerned, in my opinion it goes much deeper then just making choices.

Because when addicts are caught up in the grip of addiction the disease can manifest itself in self destructive behavior. And the addict cares little about the choices they make or the consequences. And although it does play apart to me its just to simple to state that it is just about choices especially early on in recovery. Simply because addicts are wired different then so called normal people.

As for boxers and their examinations. Do you have any idea how easy it is to hide mental illness? Obviously not. Because you cannot look at an xray and see depression or bipolar disorder. And no one can read minds, to include doctors. So if they are not honest about most mental health issues no one will find about them. Until its possibly to late. That is why they claim that so many people with mental illness suffer in silence.

I also believe that what ever is going on with Ricky it took a great deal of courage for him to admit that something was wrong. And the fact that he is a well known boxer may help one of his fans who may be having a hard time admitting that they have issues to get help for themselves.

The fact that he admitted that something was wrong is also the first step in him getting what ever help he needs to deal with his issues. And Ricky shouldn't be ridiculed for it he should in fact be applauded for his actions. And I personally have a new found respect for him and wish him nothing but the best in what ever he decides to do.

[panicchaser]

As far as Ricky is concerned I have no idea if he has addiction problems or mental problems. That is for him to decide and him alone and I won't speculate. As far as addiction is concerned, in my opinion it goes much deeper then just making choices.

Because when addicts are caught up in the grip of addiction the disease can manifest itself in self destructive behavior. And the addict cares little about the choices they make or the consequences. And although it does play apart to me its just to simple to state that it is just about choices especially early on in recovery. Simply because addicts are wired different then so called normal people.

As for boxers and their examinations. Do you have any idea how easy it is to hide mental illness? Obviously not. Because you cannot look at an xray and see depression or bipolar disorder. And no one can read minds, to include doctors. So if they are not honest about most mental health issues no one will find about them. Until its possibly to late. That is why they claim that so many people with mental illness suffer in silence.

I also believe that what ever is going on with Ricky it took a great deal of courage for him to admit that something was wrong. And the fact that he is a well known boxer may help one of his fans who may be having a hard time admitting that they have issues to get help for themselves.

The fact that he admitted that something was wrong is also the first step in him getting what ever help he needs to deal with his issues. And Ricky shouldn't be ridiculed for it he should in fact be applauded for his actions. And I personally have a new found respect for him and wish him nothing but the best in what ever he decides to do.

You can't be serious. Are you serious?

Okay firstly, the word 'decide' suggests competency. And if Hatton can 'decide' or 'choose', then you have defeated everything you claim him to be in terms of issues!

Simple question. How does one first get addicted? Choice! do you disagree??
This addiction all started with 'Choice'!!

You think Hatton just woke up one morning, looked in the mirror and thought, yup... i'm addicted! Really?! No... he made a CHOICE!! and it was the wrong one! So this coming outta retirement fiasco? This is his personal opportunity for redemption. Redemption, which is the 'process' for forgiveness. Forgiveness from his fans and most importantly, from his family. but needless to say... it's a 'privilege', not a right! As far as courage goes... he didn't need any.

To me, Hattons problem is similar to a child who grew up competing in beauty pageants. Told she looked beautiful all her life until one day, she finally came across that someone who told her she looked ugly. And pacman was that someone!

What you're not understanding is that... my man was fine in the ring. Competent in thought, in speech, in taking care of a family. None of these problems existed in the ring or post pacman fight. It wasn't until he started stayin' in his head too long that he started gettin' to himself. but in no way does that deem him 'mental'. That just means that like the little beauty pageant girl, he did not know how to accept defeat, neither could he 'appreciate' getting up from it because he had never experienced it before as he was growing up. And not 'accepting' defeat 'graciously'? That's what you call 'pride'.

A true boxer understands that he/she has a moral 'responsibility' to do right by and for the sport of boxing. It's called discipline. And that can only be taught through 'humility'. Hatton was different. He was so puffed up in his pride that doing right by the sport turned into more of a moral 'obligation' than a responsibility! Hence the reason he fell into depression.

F.Y.I. i would never ridicule a boxer for somethin' that was totally out of his control. On the same note, i could never sympathize with someone whose actions were conducive to his bad health or didn't deserve it.

Once again, to quote myself, 'his actions put him in that light! I didn't put him there.'

[Jack Napier]

Hatton made plenty of money
put together a pretty good resume
only lost to 2 great fighters
he gets plenty of love from his people no matter what
it's odd he ever considered checking himself out
he seems like a cool guy, so glad he didn't go too far

[Ravens Fan]

You can't be serious. Are you serious?

Okay firstly, the word 'decide' suggests competency. And if Hatton can 'decide' or 'choose', then you have defeated everything you claim him to be in terms of issues!

Simple question. How does one first get addicted? Choice! do you disagree??
This addiction all started with 'Choice'!!

You think Hatton just woke up one morning, looked in the mirror and thought, yup... i'm addicted! Really?! No... he made a CHOICE!! and it was the wrong one! So this coming outta retirement fiasco? This is his personal opportunity for redemption. Redemption, which is the 'process' for forgiveness. Forgiveness from his fans and most importantly, from his family. but needless to say... it's a 'privilege', not a right! As far as courage goes... he didn't need any.

To me, Hattons problem is similar to a child who grew up competing in beauty pageants. Told she looked beautiful all her life until one day, she finally came across that someone who told her she looked ugly. And pacman was that someone!

What you're not understanding is that... my man was fine in the ring. Competent in thought, in speech, in taking care of a family. None of these problems existed in the ring or post pacman fight. It wasn't until he started stayin' in his head too long that he started gettin' to himself. but in no way does that deem him 'mental'. That just means that like the little beauty pageant girl, he did not know how to accept defeat, neither could he 'appreciate' getting up from it because he had never experienced it before as he was growing up. And not 'accepting' defeat 'graciously'? That's what you call 'pride'.

A true boxer understands that he/she has a moral 'responsibility' to do right by and for the sport of boxing. It's called discipline. And that can only be taught through 'humility'. Hatton was different. He was so puffed up in his pride that doing right by the sport turned into more of a moral 'obligation' than a responsibility! Hence the reason he fell into depression.

F.Y.I. i would never ridicule a boxer for somethin' that was totally out of his control. On the same note, i could never sympathize with someone whose actions were conducive to his bad health or didn't deserve it.

Once again, to quote myself, 'his actions put him in that light! I didn't put him there.'

Yes, I disagree because I personally believe that you are born into addiction and substance abuse is only a symptom of the disease. And I guess you missed the part when I said that, unlike you, I cannot speak for Ricky. And honestly you have no idea what he has gone through or what state of mind that he may or may not have been in or when. With that said I find it absolutely ridiculous for you to think that you somehow do know, when in reality you can't possibly know. Therefore it is just all speculation on your part and obviously you have little to no knowledge on addiction or mental illness.

[WESS]

Yes, I disagree because I personally believe that you are born into addiction and substance abuse is only a symptom of the disease. And I guess you missed the part when I said that, unlike you, I cannot speak for Ricky. And honestly you have no idea what he has gone through or what state of mind that he may or may not have been in or when. With that said I find it absolutely ridiculous for you to think that you somehow do know, when in reality you can't possibly know. Therefore it is just all speculation on your part and obviously you have little to no knowledge on addiction or mental illness.

I think you would find people agreeing with Hatton having major issues the second he fired his entire team while hiring a crack head trainer, Mayweather Sr who was more concerned with Roach than he was Hatton.

That IMO would be a good starting point as to when Hatton starting showing signs of having issues. Not to mention him stating that he cried for weeks after the Mayweather fight....

[panicchaser]

Yes, I disagree because I personally believe that you are born into addiction and substance abuse is only a symptom of the disease. And I guess you missed the part when I said that, unlike you, I cannot speak for Ricky. And honestly you have no idea what he has gone through or what state of mind that he may or may not have been in or when. With that said I find it absolutely ridiculous for you to think that you somehow do know, when in reality you can't possibly know. Therefore it is just all speculation on your part and obviously you have little to no knowledge on addiction or mental illness.

Listen to yourself. 'born into addiction?'

Oh ok, let's not blame Hatton, hes a 'victim of circumstance', cause drugs ain't addictive, thats just ******. And he wouldnt have voluntarily taken these drugs. No. He musta tripped and fell with his mouth wide open and accidentally snorted, smoked and/or swallowd them and unfortunately, his 'disease' kikked in. He's what u call, genetically predisposed to taking drugs just as much as the majority of people who just happen to like 'taking' drugs!!

Man, we grow up so protected nowadays that we put limitations on everything where experience is essential to our understanding. people bakk in the day who had a lot of energy were considered normal people with... lots of energy. And today, we diagnose it as having AdHd. Now parents take their kids to a doctor who prescribes them pills for a problem that is virtually nonexistent, but because everybody is doing the same with THEIR kids, there MUST be something wrong with their child. It's a ploy coverup money scheme to distract the public from drugs and enhancement chemicals the government allows corporate companies to add to products in order to generate government revenue. And it's this very epidemic 'disease' which is desensitising the logic of a large statistic to believe that we are 'born into addiction.'

I know addiction very well. It was my personal choices that got me hooked and its also my personal choices that got me out.

Ill say it again. Hatton is neither crazy nor mental. He's simply a victim of poor choices. The media sensationalises tragedy, sympathy and success stories to feed the public something illusively tangible that at times it often feels natural to detach from logic and follow a brainwashed majority.

I think we've dragged this 1 long enough. I can appreciate your opinions although I still stand firm with mine. And not out of ignorance but with regard to MY 'personal experiences.'

I'm sure we can agree to disagree on this 1 homie

[Ravens Fan]

Listen to yourself. 'born into addiction?'

Oh ok, let's not blame Hatton, hes a 'victim of circumstance', cause drugs ain't addictive, thats just ******. And he wouldnt have voluntarily taken these drugs. No. He musta tripped and fell with his mouth wide open and accidentally snorted, smoked and/or swallowd them and unfortunately, his 'disease' kikked in. He's what u call, genetically predisposed to taking drugs just as much as the majority of people who just happen to like 'taking' drugs!!

Man, we grow up so protected nowadays that we put limitations on everything where experience is essential to our understanding. people bakk in the day who had a lot of energy were considered normal people with... lots of energy. And today, we diagnose it as having AdHd. Now parents take their kids to a doctor who prescribes them pills for a problem that is virtually nonexistent, but because everybody is doing the same with THEIR kids, there MUST be something wrong with their child. It's a ploy coverup money scheme to distract the public from drugs and enhancement chemicals the government allows corporate companies to add to products in order to generate government revenue. And it's this very epidemic 'disease' which is desensitising the logic of a large statistic to believe that we are 'born into addiction.'

I know addiction very well. It was my personal choices that got me hooked and its also my personal choices that got me out.g

Ill say it again. Hatton is neither crazy nor mental. He's simply a victim of poor choices. The media sensationalises tragedy, sympathy and success stories to feed the public something illusively tangible that at times it often feels natural to detach from logic and follow a brainwashed majority.

I think we've dragged this 1 long enough. I can appreciate your opinions although I still stand firm with mine. And not out of ignorance but with regard to MY 'personal experiences.'

I'm sure we can agree to disagree on this 1 homie

Please point out where I stated that anyone was predisposed to using drugs. Don't bother looking for it because I never made that claim and never will. I said I believe that addicts are born into addiction and using drugs is only a symptom of the disease, do you understand what that means? Obviously not. Simply put not everyone that uses or even abuses drugs is an addict. And you can continue to share your opinion with us on Ricky's mental state. However, and I will say it again, I believe it is absolutely and insanely ridiculous for you to believe that you know what is going on with Ricky regardless of what you personal experiences have been. Therefore you really should just stick to talking about Ricky's boxing career. Because anything else you have talked about concerning Ricky is just pure speculation on your part. I'm done.

[panicchaser]

Please point out where I stated that anyone was predisposed to using drugs. Don't bother looking for it because I never made that claim and never will. I said I believe that addicts are born into addiction and using drugs is only a symptom of the disease, do you understand what that means? Obviously not. Simply put not everyone that uses or even abuses drugs is an addict. And you can continue to share your opinion with us on Ricky's mental state. However, and I will say it again, I believe it is absolutely and insanely ridiculous for you to believe that you know what is going on with Ricky regardless of what you personal experiences have been. Therefore you really should just stick to talking about Ricky's boxing career. Because anything else you have talked about concerning Ricky is just pure speculation on your part. I'm done.

You didn't have to say that he was predisposed to using drugs. Your idiotic statement above implies it! 'Using drugs is only a symptom of the disease...' man... do YOU even 'know what YOU mean?' I've heard ******... but that would have to top all the ****** convictions i've read in my whole life! Congratulations!!

In case you didn't notice, we're human, which means, we are 'creatures of habit' and to suppose that USING drugs is ONLY a SYMpTOM of a non-existent disease? Are you ignorant or just ******!? USING drugs is a SYMpTOM of a bAd dECISION!!!! To disagree with my statements is to suppose that NATURALLY, some of us HAVE a genetic predisposition to taking drugs! To further comment... EVERYTHING on here IS speculation! So yes, i agree... i AM speculating! However, in reference to you, i'm quite confident i'm not. Your little uneducated equation is ridiculous! ...unless of course, you and Hatton have similar 'symptoms.'

Anyone who agrees with YOUR garbage statement is a dumb ass!! blame the pill, not the man right? You're gonna be a ****house father if you ain't already one! Keep findin' excuses to pass the blame but it's gon' catch up with you... just like it caught up with Hatton!! You both tell gooooooood stories!