Top 5 Most UNdeserving title holders

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  • leff
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    #11
    Originally posted by Anorak
    as far as I'm concerned he didn't win that belt.
    ummm yes he did.

    i had to se the fight in slowmotion with pen and papir the third time i saw it to decide (im an ammature ref).

    valuev did win by small margins.

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    • AintGottaClue
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      #12
      Originally posted by leff
      ummm yes he did.

      i had to se the fight in slowmotion with pen and papir the third time i saw it to decide (im an ammature ref).

      valuev did win by small margins.
      ya but he shoulndt even got that shot, donald beat him 10-2 easly

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      • !! Anorak
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        #13
        Originally posted by leff
        ummm yes he did.

        i had to se the fight in slowmotion with pen and papir the third time i saw it to decide (im an ammature ref).

        valuev did win by small margins.
        What did you look for, Ieff?

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        • leff
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          #14
          Originally posted by SturmRules
          ya but he shoulndt even got that shot, donald beat him 10-2 easly

          i cant say cause i only saw half the fight and what i saw was pretty close.

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          • leff
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            #15
            Originally posted by Anorak
            What did you look for, Ieff?
            same as allways legal clean shots.

            many of ruiz`s combo landed on valuevs guard and and shoulders, pluss ruiz also hit him some times in the back and some whan holding.

            im not saying ruiz fough dirty im saying shots landed to backhead, shotslanded when holding and punches on albows and shoulders dont ****.

            especially the combos are hard to tell fore the untrained eye.

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            • Memorex
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              #16
              number 1 juan diaz

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              • TheEvilSaint
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                #17
                1. Byrd
                2. Rahman
                3. O'Neil Bell
                4. Fabrice Tiozzo
                5. Cal***gy

                i would say valuev, but he got rid of ruiz, and he deserves a title for that.

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                • Chups
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                  #18
                  1. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam - Paper champ who keeps backing out of an Arce fight. Fights only in his country Thailand most of the time.

                  2. Juan Manuel Marquez - Defended title against Salido who? and Polo who?, when a bunch of other fights can be made for him...named Pacman, Morales, Barrera, Injin Chi, Scott etc.
                  And now will fight Chris who? just so he can get his precious belt back.
                  3. All the Heavyweights
                  Last edited by Chups; 12-22-2005, 06:49 PM.

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                  • whdempsey
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Manny_P
                    The undeserving ones are the ones that don't defend their titles against tough oppositions(well maybe mandatories:still sucks). The ones that fight once a year. Or those who was given belts fo weak reasons.

                    1. Chris Byrd IBF Champion is undeserving in ma opinion.

                    2. Vitali Klitschko when he held his WBC belt is undeserving.

                    3. Ricardo Mayorga holds a WBC title and definitely don't
                    deserve it.
                    I agree about Mayorga. The other two picked up vacant belts against viable opponents.

                    Markus Beyer Won his title on a questionable decision, held it on dubious officiating and then lost it to a mediocre fighter. The only impressive title result on his resume is the MD against Danny Green.

                    Ricardo Mayorga won his title after only having one fight at superwelter and against a guy who had never beaten a top-flight fighter and wasn't ranked in the Ring's top ten.

                    Hasim Rahman was lucky not to have to fight Klitschko. I don't mean that he would have been beaten. I have no idea what the result would have been. But he got his title in a lackluster showing against a lower-echelon top-ten guy.

                    I like Arthur Abraham, but I don't think he should be a titlist. The stripping of Taylor's title was bull****.

                    Alejandro Garcia never had to rematch against the only guy to beat him.

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                    • Stone Cold
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                      #20
                      what do u guys think about ruiz being an undeserving champion?

                      he lost to toney and because he tested positive for steroids they gave it back to him. when it has been proven that the meds toney took for his injury would give him the positive test.

                      i would just like your guys opinions because i am undecided.

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