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Prime sugar shane vs mayweather Jr@135(lightweight)
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Originally posted by BigAlexSand View PostAt 135 Floyd was much more willing to fight, though I do believe it would have been a dangerous fight for Floyd. He would have out pointed Shane, Vernon Forrest speed caused Shane problems and Floyd would have caused the same problems!
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Originally posted by Check_hooks View PostI don't think floyd would last more than 3 rounds. Remember were talking about a Shane that looked unbeatable at that point in time.
Pac vs Shane at 135 is a much more interesting fight
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Originally posted by edgarg View PostYou are wrong, Forrest had only average speed. What happened i that first fight was that Forrest had a powerful and accurate long jab, and also a very solid right hand which Mosley didn't seem to know how to protect against. He was wide open for it the whole fight, and i remember it distinctly as being the first time I noticed this Mosely weakness. The second fight could have been a draw.
As for a Mayweather fight, Mosley was unbeatable at 135, and not only that, he was devastating, and went for the jugular every second of every fight. He had 9-10 title fights and won by a big KO each time, except, I think against Holiday when he won the title. I believe that Mayweather would do his usual running game with occasional brilliant combinations when he was sure he wouldn't get hit.
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There are some major misconceptions in this thread, one of them being that Shane was not a counter puncher, I feel like there are people commenting here that never watched Shane fight back then, or haven't done for a long time. When Floyd fought Shane he was nearly shot, he didn't become that way overnight, if you look back over his career you can notice the steady decline, he was well past his best when Cotto fought him, and although Cotto outboxed him and beat him (close) I came away from that fight thinking Cotto would not have competed with a prime Shane. In his prime he did a little of everything, he really was a tremendous fighter.
Another misconception - Shane ducking Floyd. Why would Shane fight Floyd? Because he was such a huge draw and he could make a lot money?...No
Because they were in the same weight division?...No
Because there was a huge public outcry for the fight?...No
So let me get this straight Shane jumps 2 weight divisions to set up a fight with a Prime Oscar, the cash cow of boxing and people call this a duck? Not to mention that Floyd didn't move up to 135 (where he arguably lost his first fight) a Full 2 years after Shane fought Oscar at 147. This is not a duck people (when I say people, I think everyone knows who this is directed too). It was smart business, in fact it is not even that, it was the obvious decision.
No one gave a crap about Floyd back then, he was not a draw. Once Shane fought and beat Oscar, everyone and their mother was calling Shane out. Obviously when Floyd beat Oscar then the tables turned and Floyd became the marketable star, and Shane wanted the pay day. This is boxing.
Shane has no history of ducking anyone, look at his resume for god sakes! He always took on challenges, some of which he didn't need to. Whilst the other guy has a history of measuring risk vs reward. In terms of the fight I stand by my call, I think eventually Floyd gets taken out, but I don't begrudge the opinion that Floyd pulls out a points win, but I personally don't see it. Shane was not nearly the fighter we are talking about in this thread compared to the 38 year old that fought Floyd.
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