Comments Thread For: Robert Garcia: No Doubt, Donaire Beats Rigondeaux

[MASTER1454]

Too bad Rigondeaux doesn't excite Donaire enough to get the fight.

If it was as easy as they are saying, they'd take the fight and unify titles in a heart beat.

Bingo. He's got a title, and obviously they realize a lot of fans are calling for it, or the trainer would not be subtly acknowledging it in press quotes like these.

Just make the fight, and move on.

I agree with you both. Problem is is that they don't want to.....

Nonaire would destroy the Cuban, who even wants to see that fight.. The Cuban is a boring ass fighter. I rather watch Arce VS Nonaire even if Arce gets KTFO, at least he will go out swinging...

That's so ignorant - getting moist over a mismatch instead of a real fight *throws hands up*.....

This. . .

Even all the more reason to return Rigo's calls, and make the fight


If Donaire wants to fully unify the division before moving up, he needs to do so.

Exactly! Donaire would unify if Rigo wasn't there - too bad when he goes to 126, Rigo's going as well.....

First, Marroquin hurt GR once, the other one he was off balance and you forgot to mention that Marroquin is a puncher with a lot of amateur experience and doubles GR in professional fights, you forgot to mention that this fight was cancelled and that Rigondeaux never had a chance to acclimate and was in Miami less than 72 hours before the fight, and you are omitting how GR reacted to the shot and how he was able to put a young lion on his back twice and hard, like I had posted on other threads, ND is making a mistake by not fighting GR now, the more Rigondeaux fights the better and confident he will be, unless he never planned to do it...

They're stalling - hoping Rigo gets old overnight. Garcia: “Let’s wait for him to prove himself a little bit more,” Garcia added. “We’re not going to please him just because he’s talking smack. We’ve got to go out and make him wait a little bit longer.”

That says it all......

Robert Garcia knows it will be another Joel Casamayor Vs Himself all over again, there is too much skills in Rigondeaux for Nonito.

We know how that turned out, LOL

You do realize that Robert Garcia isn't a promoter.....

Ok, so this doesn't mean anything, right?

“Anybody,” Garcia replied. “Nonito fights the best. He chose Nishioka because, not only Nonito, but I thought Nishioka was the best [junior] featherweight in the world. We picked him and look at what we did to him. So, now it’s all up to Cameron [Dunkin] and Top Rank.”

Sounds like they have say in who they fight.......

Cubans are just what they are.. Amateur style fighters, just boring and go for the points, Rigo is tha same way, so is Lara< the only Cuban boxer that I think isnt that borrring as at least will stand and scrap is Gamboa... Donaire is far more skilled than Rigo, he is too rangy and too fast for Rigo... Arce will get smashed on by Donaire, once Donaire picks his spot with Arce and throws that left hook its lights out similair to Montiel story... Darchinyan smashed on Arce and Darch got smashed on by Donaire... Only fight I like is Donaire and Gamboa... Oh and Garcia is going to repeat as Trainer of the year.. No Doubt...

*sighs* This BS right here.....

[royjonesjrKTFO]

Garcia / Donaire "wait" for Rigo to age since he is in his 30s already. Smart!

[4Corners]

What people can't seem to understand is this......

-Donaire and his team say Rigondeaux isn't a hard fight and that Donaire will win, is better than Rigondeaux, he needs more exposure, etc.

1. If Rigondeaux was an easy fight for him, they'd fight him to unify titles in a heart beat. Both are same promoter, Rigondeaux has wanted this fight for almost a year now. It'd be easy to make.

2. Narvaez, Mathebula, and Nishioka are no more known than Rigondeaux is to the average casual fan waling down the street. All have about the same type of exposure. You could even argue that Rigondeaux appearing on Pac's undercards a couple times is probably more known than those 3, and you could market a Donaire-Rigondeaux fight for Marlins Stadium in Miami, and probably have a good turn out with other Cubans on the card as well. So it's not like Donaire-Rigo isn't a sellable fight.

3. Donaire has aired any excuse to why Rigondeaux doesn't make sense for him. First it was Donaire is too boring of a fighter and he'll be another Narvaez fight. Than it was no one knows who Rigondeaux is compared to him. Than it was Rigondeaux needs more experience. Than it was he wanted to fight Rigondeaux but Rigondeaux priced himself out of the fight (yeahhhhh okay). Now it's Rigondeaux doesn't get Donaire excited enough. The reason those are all bulls**t is this.......Narvaez (unproven at 118, no fan base, not exciting in the ring). Vazquez Jr (never beaten a Top 10 fighter and coming off a TKO loss). Mathebula (no fan base, not an excting fighter, one win over a Top 10 fighter). Nishioka (no fan base, not an exciting fighter). He's basically disproving all the reasons Rigondeaux supposedly isn't a good fight for him by fighting those 4, in one way or more.

4. It's not like Donaire is a Mayweather or Pacquiao, a Cotto-Canelo-Chavez, or even a Broner in terms of ratings right now. If Mayweather or Pacquiao said they didn't want to fight Erislandy Lara because he's not a draw at all, it's make sense. They are mega fighters and fight mega fights against Top fighters. Lara provides no money for a fight with them, so we'd understand them saying they don't want to fight Lara. But Donaire isn't a Mayweather, Pacquiao, or Cotto. He's a guy who needs the right opponent to even get 1 million viewers on HBO, and can't sell a lot of tickets either (there were 8,000 in that arena for Rios-Alvarado, and people know it's true). So he can't say he's this big draw and refuse to fight Rigondeaux based on that. It's just not true.

[Chuckguy]

There's also no doubt Donaire is ducking with lame excuses.

Talk is cheap.


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Money Talks
Its a business and Rigo is high risk low reward
just because a bunch of lames are asking for it on a fooken forum doesnt mean it should happen. Rigo only has 10 fights and isnt a draw (neither is noniito but fact is he makes more money) and is asking for Canelito type pay days.
You guys are blinded by yourn **** ****** love for your fighter
get over it
rigo needs to shut up put in work and the big fights will come to him

[MASTER1454]

What people can't seem to understand is this......

-Donaire and his team say Rigondeaux isn't a hard fight and that Donaire will win, is better than Rigondeaux, he needs more exposure, etc.

1. If Rigondeaux was an easy fight for him, they'd fight him to unify titles in a heart beat. Both are same promoter, Rigondeaux has wanted this fight for almost a year now. It'd be easy to make.

2. Narvaez, Mathebula, and Nishioka are no more known than Rigondeaux is to the average casual fan waling down the street. All have about the same type of exposure. You could even argue that Rigondeaux appearing on Pac's undercards a couple times is probably more known than those 3, and you could market a Donaire-Rigondeaux fight for Marlins Stadium in Miami, and probably have a good turn out with other Cubans on the card as well. So it's not like Donaire-Rigo isn't a sellable fight.

3. Donaire has aired any excuse to why Rigondeaux doesn't make sense for him. First it was Donaire is too boring of a fighter and he'll be another Narvaez fight. Than it was no one knows who Rigondeaux is compared to him. Than it was Rigondeaux needs more experience. Than it was he wanted to fight Rigondeaux but Rigondeaux priced himself out of the fight (yeahhhhh okay). Now it's Rigondeaux doesn't get Donaire excited enough. The reason those are all bulls**t is this.......Narvaez (unproven at 118, no fan base, not exciting in the ring). Vazquez Jr (never beaten a Top 10 fighter and coming off a TKO loss). Mathebula (no fan base, not an excting fighter, one win over a Top 10 fighter). Nishioka (no fan base, not an exciting fighter). He's basically disproving all the reasons Rigondeaux supposedly isn't a good fight for him by fighting those 4, in one way or more.

4. It's not like Donaire is a Mayweather or Pacquiao, a Cotto-Canelo-Chavez, or even a Broner in terms of ratings right now. If Mayweather or Pacquiao said they didn't want to fight Erislandy Lara because he's not a draw at all, it's make sense. They are mega fighters and fight mega fights against Top fighters. Lara provides no money for a fight with them, so we'd understand them saying they don't want to fight Lara. But Donaire isn't a Mayweather, Pacquiao, or Cotto. He's a guy who needs the right opponent to even get 1 million viewers on HBO, and can't sell a lot of tickets either (there were 8,000 in that arena for Rios-Alvarado, and people know it's true). So he can't say he's this big draw and refuse to fight Rigondeaux based on that. It's just not true.

Well said - green k.....

[MASTER1454]

Money Talks
Its a business and Rigo is high risk low reward
just because a bunch of lames are asking for it on a fooken forum doesnt mean it should happen. Rigo only has 10 fights and isnt a draw (neither is noniito but fact is he makes more money) and is asking for Canelito type pay days.
You guys are blinded by yourn **** ****** love for your fighter
get over it
rigo needs to shut up put in work and the big fights will come to him

Hey "genius", a promoter's job is to promote a fight especially between 2 titleholders. They should be able to get them chips, and if they can't, well they're in the wrong business, plain & simple. Now chuck that shyte in your crack pipe & smoke it, guy.......

[Chuckguy]

Hey "genius", a promoter's job is to promote a fight especially between 2 titleholders. They should be able to get them chips, and if they can't, well they're in the wrong business, plain & simple. Now chuck that shyte in your crack pipe & smoke it, guy.......

ok so then that means that Arum is low balling both of them so how is it a duck on either end?
you mind explaining that to me?
you just post to meet you agenda
I personally want to see a guy with only 10 fights step up in competition before he calls out the big dog in his division
Rigo almost got KO'd in his last fight who's to say he doesnt get trucked by Nonito?
Fact is you like a bunch of posters on this thread are a bunch of rigo (what the hell has he done) nutthuggers going at it with another set of Nonito (not as big of draw as he thinks) ball washers
may the best momos win

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Money Talks
Its a business and Rigo is high risk low reward
just because a bunch of lames are asking for it on a fooken forum doesnt mean it should happen. Rigo only has 10 fights and isnt a draw (neither is noniito but fact is he makes more money) and is asking for Canelito type pay days.
You guys are blinded by yourn **** ****** love for your fighter
get over it
rigo needs to shut up put in work and the big fights will come to him

What work has Vazquez put in boxing? He gets KTFO and he gets a shot at Donaire. Rigo beats his opponents in good fashion and gets told to prove himself more.

Maybe the one blinded here is YOU... Just saying.

[MASTER1454]

ok so then that means that Arum is low balling both of them so how is it a duck on either end?
you mind explaining that to me?
you just post to meet you agenda
I personally want to see a guy with only 10 fights step up in competition before he calls out the big dog in his division
Rigo almost got KO'd in his last fight who's to say he doesnt get trucked by Nonito?
Fact is you like a bunch of posters on this thread are a bunch of rigo (what the hell has he done) nutthuggers going at it with another set of Nonito (not as big of draw as he thinks) ball washers
may the best momos win

Bullshyte! my agenda is - To see the best fights get made sans politics. Too bad you can't say the same. Rigo's gone on the record that he wants the fight. Donaire has heed & hawed, then said he'd fight whoever & it doesn't matter. Now, after the Nishioka fight, he's back to the same BS. That's not Arum - that's Donaire. And for the ignorant, that's a duck! And who won the Marroquin fight and was the decision in doubt? And who's to say he doesn't beat the brakes off of Donaire?

And you talk about nuts & balls too much - next time you post type with both hands instead of one hand deedling on your baby corn phallus and those Raisinettes you call testes, GTFOH.......

[name918]

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Boxing has 2 sides, technical side which is from boxer/trainer's view which is just secondary and primary is the business side ... profit, profit and profit...which is more important from the promoter's side.