Standing 8 counts.

[Tom Cruise]

There is a little chat at the moment that the Alvarado stoppage was a little premature... i dont agree with this under the present rules as i always think its better to be looking back wondering why it was stopped rather than looking back and wondering why it wasn't.

However I still dont see why we cant have standing 8 counts in pro boxing? Im not talking like the ams where if you get caught a couple times the ref steps in, just in the moments where at the moment the ref would call the fight off give a standing 8 count, see if they can recover, make sure they are definitely hurt and its not just looking bad from your angle (see calzaghe manfredo from the refs angle).

I dont see why a fighter should be punished worse for staying on their feet under fire than if they take a knee or go down? Or say with corrales castillo where he was being held up by the ropes... i dont believe he was more hurt than corrales just unlucky that he was being held up when he was hurt.

[any craic lad?]

I see your point are ya not then robbing a fighter his chance too finish his opponent and win.What if the guy recovers and then sparks out the guy who could stopped him til the ref got in the way.Thats my opinion

[Russian Crushin]

No such thing jn the pros

[BlackHat]

I see your point are ya not then robbing a fighter his chance too finish his opponent and win.What if the guy recovers and then sparks out the guy who could stopped him til the ref got in the way.Thats my opinion

This.. it's not like in amateur where you stack up points and not looking for a ko.

[New England]

you can give an 8 count to a fighter if you believe that the ropes are holding him up.


as others have said, there is no standing eight count in professional boxing. it defeats the purpose of effective punching. you don't reward a guy with an 8 second reprieve for taking a pounding. this aint the backward amateur system


the alvarado stoppage was terrific. it was a batter of time (probably one or two more hard punches,) before alvarado was badly hurt. his hands were up in name only. probaby the instincts that come with boxing from the time you're a youth. he was all but unconscious.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

It's easy to second guess something after the fact but I think once you look at the replay you can clearly see that Alvarado was out on his feet. His hands were NOT up, they were by his chest area but he wasn't defending himself. If Rios is allowed to reset, he hit's Alvarado with some brutal shots and really hurts Alvarado.

Good job by the ref preventing a brutal KO. I know it's what the fans would like to see but there was no need to take it to that level.

[Rockin']

The staning 8 count was done away with for safety reasons, that's it...........Rockin'

[Vasyl’s dad]

There is a little chat at the moment that the Alvarado stoppage was a little premature... i dont agree with this under the present rules as i always think its better to be looking back wondering why it was stopped rather than looking back and wondering why it wasn't.

However I still dont see why we cant have standing 8 counts in pro boxing? Im not talking like the ams where if you get caught a couple times the ref steps in, just in the moments where at the moment the ref would call the fight off give a standing 8 count, see if they can recover, make sure they are definitely hurt and its not just looking bad from your angle (see calzaghe manfredo from the refs angle).

I dont see why a fighter should be punished worse for staying on their feet under fire than if they take a knee or go down? Or say with corrales castillo where he was being held up by the ropes... i dont believe he was more hurt than corrales just unlucky that he was being held up when he was hurt.

if a guy can't think enough to take a knee, he's out of it.

[Tom Cruise]

I see what your all saying but say if castillo had been in the centre of ring when when he was getting punched he probably goes down and gets a 10 count... and who knows he maybe would have recovered and carried on fighting same as corrales did when he was knocked down twice.

Are you not robbing a fighter of a ko finish by not letting them batter the knocked down fighter as soon as they get up as used to happen?

I dont think that the referee shouldn't be allowed to stop the fight if its too one sided over a period of time... but instances where a fighter is hurt in the moment and its a competitive fight i dont see why they should be stopped.

Im not sure why i brought up the Alvarado stoppage to be honest, it was only because i was reading a thread where people were complaining about it and it got me thinking...

[FeFist]

It'd be too difficult to implement. Stopping a fight would be seen as a last resort so if the fighter is getting somewhat punished the ref may not intervene. With a standing 8 count they could intervene when it is not necessary.

For me it is on the fighter to take a knee.