Could Tzu turn Valuev into the top heavyweight?

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  • Verstyle
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    #21
    Originally posted by joeboxer
    If Tzu, who is famous for his punching power which he developed through secret training methods that are better than any one else's, decides to become Valuevs trainer and teaches those secret traing methods to Valuev,

    could he turn Valuev into a monster power puncher, or at least get him to throw decent punches?

    Could Tzu turn Valuev into the legit number 1 heavyweight in the world?

    if that guy learned secrets how come i dont see 1 punch ko artist around. as in other words mike tysons everywhere

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    • Brelampago
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      #22
      Originally posted by Katz
      wow! nice post.. hmm you have some points too...
      Thanks bro, im jus statin the facts.

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        #23
        Originally posted by mystyal2k5
        if that guy learned secrets how come i dont see 1 punch ko artist around. as in other words mike tysons everywhere
        yeah they said the same thing about Vasily Jirov right before Toney put him on his azz ...said he was locked in a room with hungry dogs all kinds of crazy stuff ...may make you tough but does not necessarily make you a fighter

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          #24
          Originally posted by mystyal2k5
          if that guy learned secrets how come i dont see 1 punch ko artist around. as in other words mike tysons everywhere

          He didn't learn secrets. He invented training methods that made him EXTREMLEY strong for his size and weight. If you ever read about how much weight TZU can lift than you know what I am talking about.


          He is also very coordinated. There is no doubt about this. It also was not a genetic thing, because Tzu got much better well into his career.

          You don't have to believe me if you don't want to but I'm telling you that if you buy one of Tzu's fitness videos IT WILL MAKE YOU A BETTER BOXER.

          Getting stronger without gaing weight = a very good thing for boxers.

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            #25
            I simply don't see Valuev beating the other guys.

            Bryd (in the states) wins a relatively easy UD even despite his size....he's way too skilled.

            Wlad would merc his punk ass easily, with his handspeed. Valuev would be lucky to go 5 rounds.

            Brewster would bum rush his ass and take him out early like he did Golota.

            Peter would tear Shrek's head off with a few punches.

            Danny would survive....after almost getting K.O.'d then K.O. him.



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              #26
              Originally posted by RunWithKnives
              I simply don't see Valuev beating the other guys.

              Bryd (in the states) wins a relatively easy UD even despite his size....he's way too skilled.

              Wlad would merc his punk ass easily, with his handspeed. Valuev would be lucky to go 5 rounds.

              Brewster would bum rush his ass and take him out early like he did Golota.

              Peter would tear Shrek's head off with a few punches.

              Danny would survive....after almost getting K.O.'d then K.O. him.

              Yes Valuev is ****.

              But TZU is great. And a little bit of greatness could rub off don't you think?


              People think its too late for Valuev to get better. That is only true of boxers who are good. When you fight like an ametuer it isn't that hard to learn straight punches.

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                #27
                Originally posted by joeboxer
                Yes Valuev is ****.

                But TZU is great. And a little bit of greatness could rub off don't you think?


                People think its too late for Valuev to get better. That is only true of boxers who are good. When you fight like an ametuer it isn't that hard to learn straight punches.
                Ok I could buy that.

                But the guys I mentioned are IMO the best heavyweights....and he's not going to beat them.



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                  #28
                  Originally posted by RunWithKnives
                  Ok I could buy that.

                  But the guys I mentioned are IMO the best heavyweights....and he's not going to beat them.

                  Agreed. I would love to see what Brewster or Peter would do to him because it would be funny.

                  Wlad would beat him but it would take him a couple rounds, so it wouldn't be as funny.


                  I think he actually has a chance against Bryd. Not the bryd of 4 years ago, but todays byrd definitly.

                  Rahaman or Toney are both potentials he could beat, if he improved a little bit.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by joeboxer
                    He didn't learn secrets. He invented training methods that made him EXTREMLEY strong for his size and weight. If you ever read about how much weight TZU can lift than you know what I am talking about.


                    He is also very coordinated. There is no doubt about this. It also was not a genetic thing, because Tzu got much better well into his career.

                    You don't have to believe me if you don't want to but I'm telling you that if you buy one of Tzu's fitness videos IT WILL MAKE YOU A BETTER BOXER.

                    Getting stronger without gaing weight = a very good thing for boxers.
                    how much you can lift is not the same as how hard you hit ....fact Joe Frazier was beat in a weight lifting contest on [battle of the stars] by a olympic swimmer, actually he was beat by every one in every event, came in last.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by joeboxer
                      Agreed. I would love to see what Brewster or Peter would do to him because it would be funny.

                      Wlad would beat him but it would take him a couple rounds, so it wouldn't be as funny.


                      I think he actually has a chance against Bryd. Not the bryd of 4 years ago, but todays byrd definitly.

                      Rahaman or Toney are both potentials he could beat, if he improved a little bit.
                      Dead on the money with everything there.

                      And sure...he does have a chance against Byrd. In Europe.



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