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  • #51
    I still think Pac vs. Bradley happens in April 2012.

    The original plan was Pac vs. Cotto and Bradley vs. Marquez. But when Cotto declined, Arum was left with 3 fighters. If he did Bradley vs. Marquez, Pacquiao would be left empty handed and if he did Bradley vs. Pacquiao, he wouldn't be able to capitalize on Marquez' Mexican fanbase and drawing power. So the plan is make Pacquiao vs. Marquez in December, make a ton of money and give Bradley a tuneup so he doesn't risk losing his Pacquiao vs. Bradley matchup in April.

    Nobody's ducking anybody. The whole situation is just a strategic move for Arum.

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    • #52
      Wow did Roach just finally figure this one out?

      Bradley NEVER SOLD TICKETS.... No point in a fight with him to begin with.. SMH at Roach, Kuntz, and Team Pacquiao...

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      • #53
        The world of boxing has transformed into something I don't recognize anymore. Its all about ticket sells instead of fighting. Now, everyone wants to see brawls in the ring. If a fighter boxes, he's boring. Fighters like Bradley don't stand a chance in this modern day fight game. Fighters like Pernell Whitaker and Benitez would be considered boring in this day. No one appreciates pure boxing skills anymore. Whether he sells tickets or not, Timothy Bradley would have been considered a true warrior in the 80's and 90's. He would be looked at as a fighter who would go anywhere and face any opponent. He would be recognized as a one time unified champion and a champion of 2 different weight devisions. He would be looked on as a fighter that took his craft very serious and always prepared and came into a fight in topnotch condition. With the exception of punching power, he could be compared to Hagler and Holyfield.

        Roach is correct when he says Bradley doesn't sell tickets, but he is lying when saying Marquez is the harder fight. Roach already knows what they will get with Marquez. The fact that Manny has slowed up is the reason Marquez will always be difficult. Where Manny has always depended on his ability, Marquez depends on pure skills. But because Marquez is almost 40, he will never present the threat that Bradley does. Roach knows that Manny is not effective unless he is landing power shots. Marquez will be there to land those shots on, Bradley won't. Bradley will box Manny all night and keep turning and countering him, Marquez will sooner or later stand and trade. To be honest, if I was in control of Manny's career, I would fight Marquez too and not Bradley. Pacquiao fans and these modern day fans of boxing saw Manny blow out Tim. But old school boxing fans saw Bradley highly competitive whether they thought he won or not. But everyone seems to forget that this undefeated champion battled with a beast like Manny with 2 hurt feet. The man was injured over half the fight and still made Manny miss most of his power shots and won the championship rounds of the fight.

        Its time for Manny and Floyd to retire. If their only concern is to fight the guys who sell tickets and not fight the best, then its time to get out of the sport, and let the real fighters who want to prove they are the best, and go and fight the best, take over. Bradley want the payday with fighting Manny, but he wanted to prove he was the best. Did he prove it that night? No! But Manny didn't look like the best either and that's why they should fight again, not because Tim doesn't sell tickets.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by jvsnypes View Post
          The world of boxing has transformed into something I don't recognize anymore. Its all about ticket sells instead of fighting. Now, everyone wants to see brawls in the ring. If a fighter boxes, he's boring. Fighters like Bradley don't stand a chance in this modern day fight game. Fighters like Pernell Whitaker and Benitez would be considered boring in this day. No one appreciates pure boxing skills anymore. Whether he sells tickets or not, Timothy Bradley would have been considered a true warrior in the 80's and 90's. He would be looked at as a fighter who would go anywhere and face any opponent. He would be recognized as a one time unified champion and a champion of 2 different weight devisions. He would be looked on as a fighter that took his craft very serious and always prepared and came into a fight in topnotch condition. With the exception of punching power, he could be compared to Hagler and Holyfield.

          Roach is correct when he says Bradley doesn't sell tickets, but he is lying when saying Marquez is the harder fight. Roach already knows what they will get with Marquez. The fact that Manny has slowed up is the reason Marquez will always be difficult. Where Manny has always depended on his ability, Marquez depends on pure skills. But because Marquez is almost 40, he will never present the threat that Bradley does. Roach knows that Manny is not effective unless he is landing power shots. Marquez will be there to land those shots on, Bradley won't. Bradley will box Manny all night and keep turning and countering him, Marquez will sooner or later stand and trade. To be honest, if I was in control of Manny's career, I would fight Marquez too and not Bradley. Pacquiao fans and these modern day fans of boxing saw Manny blow out Tim. But old school boxing fans saw Bradley highly competitive whether they thought he won or not. But everyone seems to forget that this undefeated champion battled with a beast like Manny with 2 hurt feet. The man was injured over half the fight and still made Manny miss most of his power shots and won the championship rounds of the fight.

          Its time for Manny and Floyd to retire. If their only concern is to fight the guys who sell tickets and not fight the best, then its time to get out of the sport, and let the real fighters who want to prove they are the best, and go and fight the best, take over. Bradley want the payday with fighting Manny, but he wanted to prove he was the best. Did he prove it that night? No! But Manny didn't look like the best either and that's why they should fight again, not because Tim doesn't sell tickets.
          Probably one of the best posts I've seen on here.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by jvsnypes View Post
            The world of boxing has transformed into something I don't recognize anymore. Its all about ticket sells instead of fighting. Now, everyone wants to see brawls in the ring. If a fighter boxes, he's boring. Fighters like Bradley don't stand a chance in this modern day fight game. Fighters like Pernell Whitaker and Benitez would be considered boring in this day. No one appreciates pure boxing skills anymore. Whether he sells tickets or not, Timothy Bradley would have been considered a true warrior in the 80's and 90's. He would be looked at as a fighter who would go anywhere and face any opponent. He would be recognized as a one time unified champion and a champion of 2 different weight devisions. He would be looked on as a fighter that took his craft very serious and always prepared and came into a fight in topnotch condition. With the exception of punching power, he could be compared to Hagler and Holyfield.

            Roach is correct when he says Bradley doesn't sell tickets, but he is lying when saying Marquez is the harder fight. Roach already knows what they will get with Marquez. The fact that Manny has slowed up is the reason Marquez will always be difficult. Where Manny has always depended on his ability, Marquez depends on pure skills. But because Marquez is almost 40, he will never present the threat that Bradley does. Roach knows that Manny is not effective unless he is landing power shots. Marquez will be there to land those shots on, Bradley won't. Bradley will box Manny all night and keep turning and countering him, Marquez will sooner or later stand and trade. To be honest, if I was in control of Manny's career, I would fight Marquez too and not Bradley. Pacquiao fans and these modern day fans of boxing saw Manny blow out Tim. But old school boxing fans saw Bradley highly competitive whether they thought he won or not. But everyone seems to forget that this undefeated champion battled with a beast like Manny with 2 hurt feet. The man was injured over half the fight and still made Manny miss most of his power shots and won the championship rounds of the fight.

            Its time for Manny and Floyd to retire. If their only concern is to fight the guys who sell tickets and not fight the best, then its time to get out of the sport, and let the real fighters who want to prove they are the best, and go and fight the best, take over. Bradley want the payday with fighting Manny, but he wanted to prove he was the best. Did he prove it that night? No! But Manny didn't look like the best either and that's why they should fight again, not because Tim doesn't sell tickets.
            tremendous post!! i commend you, sir...

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            • #56
              I don't want to see him fight a guy he easily beat and really to me made look like a sparring partner but neither do i want to see the JMM rematch again, how about someone else crazy idea.

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              • #57
                I'm not interested in a rematch and I don't think many other people are either. I was never interested in the idea of them fighting one another the first time around.

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                • #58
                  Wait! I thought Pacquiao doesn't fight for the money?

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                  • #59
                    There is no luster anymore for WBO WW belt since this was given as gift to Bradley. This empty belt will no longer give interest and enthusiasm to fighter in good standing.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by MTN View Post
                      Bradley is still undefeated on paper but anyone who knows a thing or two about boxing saw Pac easily beat Bradley. Pac is undefeated against JMM on paper but which other fighter has given Manny more trouble then Marquez? All 3 fights were very close while Pac/Bradley was not.

                      And why are you bringing up Floyd? Floyd was ready to fight then but he's not now? Every time Pac agrees to one of May's terms, he wants something else added which keeps the fight from happening.
                      Pac has never agreed to a single term when it was in writing...name me one. The only time he agrees is when he or mayweather have a fight locked up.

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