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  • The Big Dunn
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    #121
    Originally posted by JoeMan
    I hear you. Where do we go from here? What are you b1tching about? You don't want the fight. All you wanna see is Pac bowing down to your undeserving part-time boxer idol. Why can't we move on?

    Why aren't you promoting Martinez for Floyd? Are you scared of Martinez? If you are, what are these roadblocks about when it comes to Pac?

    of course I want to see the fight. bowing down, dude get a grip. Manny is making concessions because he is the fighter that generates less. Thats how its been throughout history.

    I'm simply asking what eveidence or facts do you have that suggests manny would agree to the same deal now that he turned down rather beligerently in 2009. he's made plenty of money since then so what is his incentive to accept the deal now?

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      #122
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      you are trying to avoid the point. if you want to argue with everyone about this just so you feel that Manny isn't blamed or held accountable so be it. but the rest of us are not looking at it in such a childish blame this one /that one way.

      the bottom line is certaiin dates are more profitable given demographics or competing sporting events etc. thats why the big PR star fights on the PR parade weekend in NYC. Its why a mexican star (odh, canelo) does big business on cinco de mayo.
      me avoiding the point? your the one avoiding the point. I keep pointing out that not every date is possible just to satisfy flomo like you especially if the future of the boxer is at stake. Pac and her wife is running for elections in May so basically, flomos date is not possible... get it? why your not pointing out the 2009? you love that year, right? lol!

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        #123
        lol floyd fans are more happy with the fight not happening so they can continue to criticize pacquao/arum.. they love bash pacquao more than praise Floyd...

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        • deanrw
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          #124
          Originally posted by V.WEBB
          When will you boxing fans understand that Manny vs Floyd is never, ever going to happen?
          Oh it will happen, but in 5-10 years when both are broke and will want to come out of retirement for a payday. I should photoshop them now each holding a cane and having gray hair. I might get the contract for a fight promotional poster. LOL

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            #125
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            of course I want to see the fight. bowing down, dude get a grip. Manny is making concessions because he is the fighter that generates less. Thats how its been throughout history.

            I'm simply asking what eveidence or facts do you have that suggests manny would agree to the same deal now that he turned down rather beligerently in 2009. he's made plenty of money since then so what is his incentive to accept the deal now?
            Dude, if you wanna talk about which fighter generates more, you need to stop quoting me. I'm not interested. I'm not even interested in the fight anymore. Just admit you don't want the fight. All you wanna see is Pac not getting his part of the deal so that your man would look like a deserving queen. Really? You don't care whether the fight happens or not?

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #126
              Originally posted by sapaw
              me avoiding the point? your the one avoiding the point. I keep pointing out that not every date is possible just to satisfy flomo like you especially if the future of the boxer is at stake. Pac and her wife is running for elections in May so basically, flomos date is not possible... get it? why your not pointing out the 2009? you love that year, right? lol!
              its not about satisfying individual posters its about maximizing profit by holding the fight on a weekend that has proven to attract more buying customers. Your argument is manny can't fight on May 5th because the election is May 13th. Frankly, that makes no sense because manny isn't some poor politician running for office. His name recognition in the province is high enough that he'll be ok. please do not act like manny is going to get elected for his political platform.

              Besides, everyone will be watching the fight in the phillipines so its not like that wont be a good boost right before the fight.

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                #127
                Originally posted by JoeMan
                Dude, if you wanna talk about which fighter generates more, you need to stop quoting me. I'm not interested. I'm not even interested in the fight anymore. Just admit you don't want the fight. All you wanna see is Pac not getting his part of the deal so that your man would look like a deserving queen. Really? You don't care whether the fight happens or not?

                your not interested for 2 simple reasons:

                1 you dislike floyd
                2. you don't think manny will win.

                as for who generates more, that is important because historically the larger earner sets the parameters for thew fight. SO its not that I want manny to get screwed, its that I can't understand why he thinks he will not get treated the same way as he treats those who earn less than him. thats whats been holding the fight up since the beginning.

                a floyd/Manny fight should allow manny to earn the most his contract with TR will allow. If he doesn't get as much as floyd he should look to change his deal, which at least he appears to be doing by working with 50.

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                • -Kev-
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                  #128
                  April 2013: Pacquiao-Bradley II.

                  November 2013: Pacquiao-Marquez 5.

                  April 2014: Pacquiao-Bradley 3.

                  November 2014: Pacquiao-Marquez 6.

                  2015: Retirement.

                  Floyd:

                  May 2013: Canelo Alvarez

                  May 2014: Sergio Martinez

                  May 2015: Retirement

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                  • Grimgash
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    April 2013: Pacquiao-Bradley II.

                    November 2013: Pacquiao-Marquez 5.

                    April 2014: Pacquiao-Bradley 3.

                    November 2014: Pacquiao-Marquez 6.

                    2015: Retirement.

                    Floyd:

                    May 2013: Canelo Alvarez

                    May 2014: Sergio Martinez

                    May 2015: Retirement
                    In all honesty, i'd be fine if that happened lol.

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                    • -Kev-
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Grimgash
                      In all honesty, i'd be fine if that happened lol.
                      Me too. Canelo in 2013, then Martinez in 2014, if all three of them are still winning, still on top, and Sergio is still a top 3 P4P fighter, and Canelo is still undefeated. Then why not.

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